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Taken from a good article a few years back: conflictingviews.wordpress.com…There’s a distinction that needs to be made between white people and the Japanese. White people look at the world as a business. IE they see everyone as a potential buyer and not as a human. As such, they are very willing to compromise anything if it means making a buck. The Japanese, on the other hand, do not like to compromise anything. They are very stubborn people who are unwilling to change or take another’s suggestions to heart.
Case in point? A little game called Segagaga . The game is a self parody of Sega’s ventures into game development, covering their rise and downfall as well as taking a look at a little character called “Alex the Kidd” and how he went down on his luck when Sonic came out.
That’s really all that people like about the game. What I like about the game is a character called “Special Task Force Director Cool”. He’s an American portrayed as a malevolent business man out to churn out mediocre games to make a quick buck.
There’s only one problem with that. He’s actually based on one of SOA’s former CEOs. Tom Kalinske, otherwise known as the guy who is making Leapfrog a shitload of money. Currently, Leapfrog is the 3rd largest toy company, raking in $680 Million dollars.
“What the fuck!? This guy worked at Sega!?”
Oh hell yes. This is the man that kicked the shit out of Nintendo during the time of the Sega Genesis. Around the time of his stay at Sega, he saw that the company was…. shitty with their approach at selling the Genesis. He went straight to Japan and told them straight up. “You guys suck”. First off, they wanted to sell the Genesis at $189.99 dollars which was pretty expensive at the time. Not to mention they wanted to package the console in with Altered Beast. Instead, Kalinske had the bright idea of packing in Sonic the Hedgehog with the Genesis, and a price cut. Needless to say, SOJ hated the ideas. But SOJ’s CEO, Hayao Nakayama, said “we hired you to kick ass. So do it”.
And ass was kicked royally! Say what you will about Sega’s marketing campaign being “mean”, but it worked. The Genesis was a break through success and revealed that Nintendo was still a mortal like many other companies at the time. The Mega Drive in Japan (Japanese Genesis) was a flop, however, and around that time, Nakayama was getting pissed at his coworkers. “why can’t you do things like Kalinske!?” It was funny because most of the folks over at SOJ thought Kalinske was a foolish man for releasing Genensis at a lower price, and with their best game packed in. See, SOJ was thinking more about gaining more profits by selling the console and then getting people to buy the game separately (something Nintendo tried with N64 and Gamecube. We all know how that turned out). Needless to say, the Genesis won out due to Kalinske. He spit fire so hot that Nintendo was dying of heat stroke! Hell, anyone deserves some credit if you force a competitor’s hand to resort to pussy tactics like… oh I don’t know…..their lawyers ?
90’s Sega fanboyism aside 
All those who are Sonic fans. If you want to know why Sega’s been stuck in a rut, why Sonic X-Treme has a legendary development history, why Sega was bought out by Sammy, and why we have shit marketing, you can attribute it to SOJ’s previous board of directors during the 90’s (and probably today).
And how much you want to bet they’ll never admit it? The Japanese NEVER admit their faults. They take that shit to grave. Hell, they still won’t admit their awful treatment of the Koreans back in the ol’ days of war. Why else would depictions of Samurai be banned in Korea!?
They NEVER acknowledged Kalinske’s success with the Genesis. They strong armed all control from him because, in general, they NEVER wanted to be ursurped. How DARE this baka gaijin have MORE success with something WE created!?
And the problem is…. a lot of Japanese devs hate this. Sakamoto of Metroid fame will NEVER acknowledge the Metroid Prime Series as being legit Metroid games… and why would he? They only had more success than Metroid Fusion and Zero Mission… and Other M. And wasn’t it Rare, an American company, that saved Nintendo from Kalinske’s ass kickings from the Genesis? What did they do? They sold them off to Microsoft without so much as a thank you.
Sources:
info.sonicretro.org/Tom_Kalins…
www.adilegian.com/Segagaga/?p=…
www.giantbomb.com/profile/blaz…
www.sega-16.com/2005/02/tom-ka…
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I looked at an article you linked in another one of your posts and yeah we do need this guy back, he seems like he knows what he's doing. just imagine how differently things would have been if he never left and was still in charge, we probably could have avoided that whole split in the fandom when sonic adventure came out, by probably opting for them to incorporate elements from the western canon like you said in that other meme you made If 3D Sonic games had the U.S. Canon but that's just my guess for what might have happened.
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What gets me is when you realize that after all the shit they did to drive him out, along with the Japanese CEO at the time, as well as the founder of the company, SOJ makes no effort to sell their games outside of Japan, hence why we keep getting people who say that Sega needs to make other games when the Yakuza series has been running along Sonic since the PS2, with the already finished Yakuza 6 coming to the states next year. Then again, this is only one of their other series.
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Every Sonic fan should know about this because this is not just a horrible decision on their part, but a travesty to all gamers who love the blue blur.
To think SEGA might have actually overtaken Nintendo had they played their cards right. But no... that would be too much of a blow to their pride to ever do something like that. -.-
It really is true when they say pride goes before a fall.
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"And how much you want to bet they’ll never admit it? The Japanese NEVER admit their faults. They take that shit to grave. Hell, they still won’t admit their awful treatment of the Koreans back in the ol’ days of war. Why else would depictions of Samurai be banned in Korea!?"
EHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh............Wut!?
Dude, at the point. didn't you take some time to, Ya'know. to figure you're using that as an argument, simply because a branch of an Company won't appeal to your mindset of Sonic-Fans? i do know some of the above quoted text from someone else. (Haru Sankoff, was it!?) but he was coming from the perspective of being disillusioned SEGA fan, whom is upset how the company handled the 7th Console generation, and clings to their Megadrive/Genesis days, You, on the other hand. judging from all the preference stamps you made, sound like. an Archie STH fan whom is more focused on crazy superhero comic book storylines, in which you think where Sonic's coolness. originates from. or is Heavily associated with.
Which is an piece of an puzzle, in various. Arguments from any-side of the Sonic-Fandom to lampshade their preferences (like, Swooning for Nintendo. Bringing up Sonic06. asking for Adventure 3. talk about how much they love the writing for Pontac/Graff's stories. start Voice-acting fights. hate on SONICTEAM/Dimps. hate on Iizuka. treat classic-games like God.)
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"Dude, at the point. didn't you take some time to, Ya'know. to figure you're using that as an argument, simply because a branch of an Company won't appeal to your mindset of Sonic-Fans?"
I could ask you the same thing, especially when your argument is based on someone's "mindset" rather then what it should be, but I can guess this is going to the "opinion are all equal" fallacy like most other internet dwellers. On that note, the games have been selling less overall since 2010, so there's no point in going any further into the argument, because Sega's mindset since then hasn't been appealing to most people.
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and the Games not selling, has nothing to do with Kalinske not being the Us president of Sega, anymore. especially when everything you disliked since Colors, sorta if almost, has to do with Americans.
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"and the Games not selling, has nothing to do with Kalinske not being the Us president of Sega, anymore."
Who even said it was because of that? lol
"especially when everything you disliked since Colors, sorta if almost, has to do with Americans."
Because the Japanese totally didn't design the game, it's content, and everything aside from the writing. No, it was all American. lmao
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"Who even said it was because of that? lol"
its that what the Deviation is implying? since you seem like say. it was as Sonic games "abandon" Kalinske/SOA's "Philosophy" around Sonic Colors.
"Because the Japanese totally didn't design the game, it's content, and everything aside from the writing. No, it was all American. lmao"
Yet you associate Sonic 1-3k, Sonic Adventure-Storybook games, being made by american dev teams.
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"its that what the Deviation is implying?"
It doesn't imply anything but the need for Sega to hire him back because he made better decisions, not that the game sold less because he left, though he was responsible for them getting famous in the first place.
"Yet you associate Sonic 1-3k, Sonic Adventure-Storybook games, being made by american dev teams. "
Not the storybook games, but the others were. The US team had been dissolved since before or after 06.
honestly, though, you should pay attention to the fact that this was all copied from an article, and I even linked it, rather then putting words in my mouth.
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I Happened to be aware of Heru quite a bit, (Was he Neofcon on youtube at some point, >.>) where he make some observational points at best, but at worst. he pulls some real shit in order to fulfill his view on Sonic, like. in the same article you copied and pasted from. when he was focusing on Hajime Satomi, he bought up that now irrelevant article "the blog, Sega doesn't want you to see." that was written by that cunt Blazehedgehog, whom he was in the place of that Sega "Employee" in order to give Sega a even bigger (and actually, very unnecessary hate from the "Blog") bad rep than they already had at the time, and presumably actually got an Real Sega employee, fired. what should have i expected from TSSZ though!?
and my mistake, That Japan committing WW2 was on Heru's Blog.
but no, Kalinske can't make "Better" decisions for Sega, Now. its not 1991 anymore. Sega has moved on from the Image their associated with from the early 90s. and i doubt, Kalinske has any better idea to bring Sega back to prominence or any, when he stated. Sonic GO. was a great idea when asked about the suggestion of it, in an interview, and was the real person behind the Saturn-Launch. courtesy of a actually good, if not incredible. gaming journalism site. that was inactive since 2009 called "1up.com"
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Case in point, i refer to this.
"Kalinske remembers it as a situation where Sega was basically backed into a corner: " We all knew PlayStation was coming so we wanted to pre-empt them. Japan basically ordered us to be on shelf in the Fall, [so] I thought up the surprise launch as a way of generating excitement and PR. However, the downside was not enough software was ready, which was a significant problem, and the surprise benefited some retailers but annoyed others who were either not included or didn't receive a large enough initial allocation of hardware. On top of that, the price was really too high. If we'd had a larger number of units to launch correctly with all retailers, and if we'd had a few more software titles, I think the result would have been significantly better. On the other hand if we'd waited until PlayStation was in the market I think the results would have been even worse."
"We all knew PlayStation was coming so we wanted to pre-empt them. Japan basically ordered us to be on shelf in the Fall, [so] I thought up the surprise launch as a way of generating excitement and PR. However, the downside was not enough software was ready,"
"Japan basically ordered us to be on shelf in the Fall,"
"[so] I thought up the surprise launch"
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"I Happened to be aware of Heru quite a bit, (Was he Neofcon on youtube at some point, >.>) where he make some observational points at best, but at worst. he pulls some real shit in order to fulfill his view on Sonic"
I didn't ask if you were aware of him, but you kept saying "what you say/imply" when nothing written there was my own. Also, if this is you main argument against him, then you might as well say the same thing about pretty much every Sonic fan on the internet, but since you're so focused on someone's view, I can tell you have no real knowledge of the series to speak on the matter.
"but no, Kalinske can't make "Better" decisions for Sega, Now. its not 1991 anymore. Sega has moved on from the Image their associated with from the early 90s."
And yet doing far worse, so whatever else you have to say on the matter can be ignored.
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That doesn't change the fact, your quote, sounded unnecessarily harsh. let alone borderline crazy. the japanese side of SEGA had nothing to do with WW2, since that was what you were trying to imply, especially on an comparison level.
and btw.
"so there's no point in going any further into the argument, because Sega's mindset since then hasn't been appealing to most people. "
You realize, Sega. has been localizing games a little more frequently, has an Warhammer game in production. and allows mods on steam. Check twitter/siliconera more frequently!?
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"That doesn't change the fact"
Neither does anything you have to say.
"You realize, Sega. has been localizing games a little more frequently, has an Warhammer game in production. and allows mods on steam. Check twitter/siliconera more frequently!? "
Apparently, you have no idea what the phrase "most people" means. Seriously, who outside of hardcore PC fans are even playing that?
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"Neither does anything you have to say."
Wonderful Sidestepping from what i was calling you out for, in the first place.
"Apparently, you have no idea what the phrase "most people" means. Seriously, who outside of hardcore PC fans are even playing that?"
"most people" probably refers to angry Sega-hating sonic fans on Neogaf/Twitter, if not idiots on Deviantart/Youtube. and Warhammer has a Legacy, prior to even the Nintendo entertainment system's introduction, for enough people to care about it.
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"Wonderful Sidestepping from what i was calling you out for, in the first place."
Because I can tell you'll just spout some ignorant shit and have no real knowledge of the subject.
""most people" probably refers to angry Sega-hating sonic fans on Neogaf/Twitter"
I rest my case.
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There was also a moment where almost came close to convincing Sega to team up with Sony after they turned to SOA after Nintendo's now infamous betrayl of them. SOJ refused. Judging by the article this was indeed before the 32X got made, telling me he would've laughed his ass off at the idea of the thing if SOJ said yes to parterning with Sony.
Tom Kalinske is actually probably why the Sonic franchise still has as much popularity as it does today. Or at least why it got off the ground. I honestly think Nintendo's been treated uncharacteristically kind by history.
The sadness is that SOJ did get what it wanted. They beat Nintendo in Japan with the Saturn. But they played part in creating an even more ferocious enemy and lost their power in Europe and America in the process. So I would like to think many of them wondered at times, "was it worth it?". Nintendo and Sega basically both created the PS1. Sega could have easily be still making consoles and kicking Nintendo's ass if only the board had listened to Kalinske and said "yes" to partnering with Sony.
It would have made the creation of the 32X probably never happen. The Saturn would BE the PlayStation basically and so there would be no reason to rush it's launch, and the Dreamcast would be the highest selling console of all time since it would take PS2's place. That, I think, would settle who won the console wars.
But alas, only in alternate universes.....
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Pretty much everything you said here was correct. I still say though, that Sega beat Nintendo in the console war when it came to Genesis vs SNES, the rest of the time, Sega starting beating itself, or rather, the Japanese branch was beating it's own company and Nintendo was left to go up against Sony, who pretty much did everything that mattered, better then Nintendo. History itself really doesn't treat Nintendo kind, it's their fanboys and the lack of people going against them. I've said this many times to people but even more critical Nintendo fans attest to this, one in particular I watch on youtube.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfgr4t…
This is coming from a guy who owns more Nintendo products then the "hardcore fanbase".
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Yeah, that is true. From what I looked into Sega was dominant primarily in Europe and Brazil (and Genesis/Mega Drive still sell in Brazil to this day along with the Master System), and had caught up to Nintendo in America. It was really mostly in Japan and via their 80's followers that Nintendo really ruled. Even if the SNES sold more, the SNES is currently discontinued but the Genesis & Master System are technically still selling (mostly in Brazil).
The Master System, from Sega, is technically the longest lasting console of all term, surpassing even Atari's. That's a reality I'm sure Nintendo would hate being brought up to them.
And that is true. For the most part, Sega committed suicide rather than let itself get murdered by Nintendo or Sony (Microsoft jumped in after the DC was already discontinued).
But at the very least, our universe's Sega did manage to make the beast known as Nintendo bleed. Thanks to Tom Kalinske Nintendo was shaken from it's throne. The man knew and knows how to market a system and a mascot. I think he really wanted that Sony deal to go through, is probably why the 32X even exists. The 32X was only the bare beginning. Sega COULD have come back from the 32X if they hadn't raped their chances with the Saturn. But Kalinske himself didn't think highly of the saturn so I don't know. Once he officially jumped ship though that's I think when Sega really started dying. He clearly knew when SoJ screwed it up so bad even he couldn't save it.
It's all easily avoidable too, is the sad part. Like, writing a timeline of alternate history it's not that hard to see what decisions to make go different to save Sega. Sega is like the Byzantine Empire of the Gaming Industry.
And that is true. Not many people really go against Nintendo probably out of nostalgia for their franchises. They seem to ignore all the moments when Nintendo does fuck up but pick the SHIT out other companies when they do the same shit. Like if Mario made a version of Sonic 06 it'd probably still get good reviews. Sega does it and they get shat on. I seen the wiki article for Nintendo. They are NOT the beast they were back in the 80's. Kalinske could probably drive Modern Nintendo into bankruptcy with his marketing at this point let alone compete with them. Nintendo is slowly dying it seems. It's taking a while, but the Wii was just lick basically. The Wii U has failed to copy the Wii, and they are going down. If the NX fails, Nintendo will probably finally fall. Nintendo is basically only alive because of all it's franchises.
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"Kalinske could probably drive Modern Nintendo into bankruptcy with his marketing at this point let alone compete with them."
EHHHHHHHhhhhhhh........Not really,
because........well!?
He would probably think, Sonic Go. would be a Great (or actually Feasible) Idea.
venturebeat.com/2016/08/10/for…
"GamesBeat: What do you think of Pokémon Go, then? If you were launching Sonic Go, how would you do that?
Kalinske: [laughs] That’s a great idea."
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Okay, yeah, I may have exaggerated with that statement. As I am writing an alternate history timeline I am realizing that Nintendo probably won't go bankrupt in the 1990's.
Nowadays though just look at their Wikipedia article, they aren't exactly doing so hot so really....
But anyway yes I did exagerate that statement.
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to be fair on your and Psyco's end, Sega was doing pretty badly in the 7th Console Generation. not like, worst publisher in the world-lite type of thing. but so bad. people forgot the other bad things they did other than anything with sonic. (surprisingly, they didn't do online passes, or preorder dlc that much.)
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That is true
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"EHHHHHHHhhhhhhh........Not really,"
EHHHHHHHHHHH shut up, Nintendo has been gettin' their asses kicked since after then, and by Sony since SOJ were being dicks. Even if not bankruptcy, they would've kept more of the market share had Kalinske stayed, especially if they made that deal with Sony, which Nintendo also passed up, which resulted in both their losses.
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doesn't change Kalinske was the real one behind the Saturn-launch, which was the reason why Sega was losing money til the end of the Dreamcast where they went Third-party :^)
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Ok, lets say if that was true, got a source?
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www.google.com/search?q=Kalins…
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"Japan basically ordered us to be on shelf in the Fall "
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SOJ wanted the US Release in fall, Kalinske publicly said at E3 that year. that it was on the shelves just as he immediately as e3 was starting. it launched at 399$ price point, and had few games at US Launch. i don't know when e3 took place at that point, but it supposedly took place during the summer time, the saturn, released in the summertime, SOJ wanted it in fall. so it could build momentum for people saving money and such. and prepare for games. SOA released it in May, four months before the actual release date.
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So your argument here is about the Saturn right? Say that Kalinske did make the mistake of releasing it too soon, you do know that happened because the Japanese shut the Genesis down out of spite right? Had they not done that, the Saturn wouldn't have became an issue, and the main reason it did was because the stores didn't want to get rid of the Genesis. So regardless of Kalinske's fault in the release date, it was the Japanese who not only cause it, but also dropped the deal with Sony and ended up getting their asses kicked by them.
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Whats the explanation for the saturn's launch price, and the creation of the 32x then?
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Not really sure myself, but I can see now you're just another one of those guys who seem to have some grudge against Kalsinke and go out your way to make him look bad for one or two things you bits of information you dig up, a few of you guys have been popping up lately. Don't know why though, doing all this to defend some Japanese people who destroyed their own company out of spite and can barely do shit now. I say this as a person who still keeps up with their games, but their hardly doing as much as they should for themselves. Fact is though, you're not winning proving anything here but your own corporate slavery.
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i wouldn't say i have an grudge against kalinske, because he's moved on, and is doing his own thing, or whatevaz. good on him.
still, you and the rest of nearly every sonic/sega fan in the same ideals of worshiping this one suit, really can't get it though any of you'rs thick skulls. that, kalinske can't save sega, but he "could" because of a few lucky ideas like packing sonic as a free game. 90s crazy advertisements. and promoting the genesis as an sports-friendly system.
and whenever you like it or not, sega was pretty much doing fine until the 7th console generation. which a large majority of japanese pubs/devs were struggling in. maybe because of heavy politics in japan? delusions of wanting to chase the "aaa" game? and cultural sabotage? implementing characters from an comic-book isn't or was never gonna save sega. when they were losing money primarily because of crowing the genesis with add-ons, launching the saturn immediately and used a steep price at the time. and soa pushing sonic more in the public spotlight amongst everything else. when they could have done the same for virtua fighter (which kalinske/soa did,) *COUGH* INB4 THE SUGGESTION THAT THEY ARE STILL PROMOTING THOSE TODAY/AT THE TIME *COUGH* *COUGH* WHEN YOU SAID HERE THAT IN THE VERY SAME COMMENT SECTION THAT THEY DON'T DO MUCH NOW *COUGH* when that could of benefited soa with more money, when virtua fighter was the most revolutionary game at that point and time. of course, you probably like to convince yourself that another eternal champions should be made, over an more series with fidelity like virtua fight, or jet set radio.
at best, you seem to hate a large majority of japanese people in sega, tell me you hate the devs too, right? one person here suggested he wanted Toshihiro Nagoshi (Yakuza, Super Monkey Ball. Daytona USA) to fill Takashi Illuzka's position, or be heavily involved with sonic. saying such, you respond negatively clinging to kalinske/soa. when nagoshi is the last person at sega can obviously whom can keep sonic true to the cool spirit you and amongst other sonic fans in the same way of thinking, desire.
funny thing is, you continue to hate on the the japanese side of sega like crazy, knowing all and well. you admitted the games you like were made by japanese in house teams. in an previous reply when i told you that you seem to think the games were made by people in america.
and the whole corporate slave thing is funny, i'm not the one clinging to an businessman whom moved on to something else, and repeatedly suggesting an series is bad now simply because of tone/writing (and i happen to hate pontac/graff's writing too and more so believe to be in the mindset sonic should be cool, not to mention i like sonic games from 2003-2009.)
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So you're just mad at me for not liking the Japanese branch and recognizing the fact that they were the ones who fucked up the company and Sonic and just want to argue with me over it, because this is what all you're whining tells me. Damn you're sad. lol
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explain to me how the japanese side fucked up the company, and sonic. when the japanese side were the ones making the games (not to mention ones other than sonic) and kalinske was the forefather of dividing the fanbase, with focus on the irrelevent american continuity. i already gave you the explanation why the saturn failed after all. don't pint that on soj because of "jealousy" when kalinske was the one to make the steep 499 dollar price, and put it on shelves immediately after announcing the price. but for any reason. you just sidestep over that to find an fault against soj.
and don't tell me, i'm the one whom is "whining" when you make pictures focusing you're rage on sonic games 2010-2016. and put so much disillusioned-rage on the japanese branch of sega, simply because they don't follow the archie continuity in their games.
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"explain to me how the japanese side fucked up the company, and sonic."
If I have to explain that to you then you shouldn't even be arguing with me or anyone else over the issue. It only shows how ignorant you are and really arguing cause I dare criticize your Japanese pimps. You can bring up how Kalinske fucked up but need to be explained what the Japanese get wrong. That's laughable and idiotic considering you wrote that wall of text. Either that or you're just faking ignorance and once I had shown you the proof that the japanese were the ones who fucked up, you'd dismiss it for one little think Kalinske did again, and talk your way out of anything else and ignore the facts. All you weaboos are all the same. LMAO.
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as far i can see, the japanese porn industry is pretty cancerous, so is the commercialization of people in entertainment over there. and the identity of leadership is confusing. though sega as an japanese company doesn't have anything to do with that stuff.
and i wouldn't go as far to say kalinske fucked up entirely, he did bring sega in the public eye. but he still had a train of faults as much as he had pros. that said, the saturn launch was still something on kalinske's hands.
the thing is, you hardly brought up anything to counter my points, when i bought up the saturn launch from kalinske in that 1up.com article. you painted on jealously from soj. when kalinske should have been concerned about the public eye towards it in america. and when i said kalinske couldn't do anything for sega now. you refuted with saying sega should get back kalinske, because of past merits. when i asked you about discarding soj as an company, i gave you an question if you disregard the developers as well. but you sidestepped over that as well.
and you use the wall of text argument against me, but you haven't even gave an example-based reason why you hate soj. constantly using the "jealously" thing and you're bias for the comics and american continuity.
case in point, if you can't use an argument towards my points. you overlook them and sidestep all over them.
me : do you have an comics/american bias?
you : (sidesteps)
me : do you disregard the japanese devs of those games?
you : (sidesteps)
me : (quotes an article on the saturn launch, directly posts the quote from kalinske that he came up with the saturn launch in america)
you : (sidesteps, or places the blame on soj's "jealously" to argue against the steep-price and immediate retail date, which cost sega their console business. for kalinske's sake of getting something done too quickly, and making an "quick buck" on impractical terms.)
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"as far i can see, the japanese porn industry is pretty cancerous, so is the commercialization of people in entertainment over there. and the identity of leadership is confusing. though sega as an japanese company doesn't have anything to do with that stuff."
Then why the fuck are you talking about it?
"and i wouldn't go as far to say kalinske fucked up entirely, he did bring sega in the public eye. but he still had a train of faults as much as he had pros. that said, the saturn launch was still something on kalinske's hands."
A train of faults, but you spent several comments just on his screw up with the Saturn, which was a product of the Japanese killing off the Genesis too soon. This is why I don't take you seriously.
"the thing is, you hardly brought up anything to counter my points"
I don't have to, you're too ignorant of the subject to have any points worth countering, or you would've be arguing with me, or had even asked me to explain how Sega of Japan fucked up but somehow know that Kalinske had a train of faults that only people defending Sega of Japan are willing to bring up. I've not even heard of any of this until I saw that article and the ones linked there, and even after looking up things over the years, I've found nothing helping your points. It's only recently that random people on the internet are trying to turn the whole thing around, and much like you, they rely on what little information they can find and exaggerate it. I don't need to counter your points, because if you were really knew what you were talking about, you would've gone out of your way to actually prove your points yourself and not come at me like I had did something to you and putting words in my mouth.
"and you use the wall of text argument against me, but you haven't even gave an example-based reason why you hate soj."
"case in point, if you can't use an argument towards my points. you overlook them and sidestep all over them."
Since when did criticizing them = hate? That's an emotion I am unable to feel for people I have not interacted with. Plus, I haven't gave any example yet I've posted a source that posted multiple sources to his words, and further looking into have no proved him wrong, so I doubt some random dweller like you with nothing to show for his shit is going to do any different. Also, you say I side step your arguments, yet I only did so that one time, and you only called me out on it when I called you out for your obvious attitude you have with me over something you clearly have no knowledge of, or simply trying to white wash. You are the one who argued with me over your post, you should've brought something to support your argument before I had asked, because everything here you claim is my doing is just copied and pasted from an article where the author did prove his points. What makes it worse is the one thing you did bring up, which I had to ask for, was a product of a fuck up, from the people, YOU ARE DEFENDING. LMAO!
"me : do you have an comics/american bias?
you : (sidesteps)
me : do you disregard the japanese devs of those games?
you : (sidesteps)"
Again, proving you're here only to settle some a grudge with me and acting like a child. You talk all this good shit and never once proved anything until I had asked, as well as accusing me of an emotion I can't feel for someone I haven't interacted with. Case in point, this is not longer an argument over fact, this is your own emotion and you being desperate to say anything you can against me. If this is how you are on a psychological level, then I guess I will sidestep your arguments, because children like you aren't worth the time taking seriously.
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"then I guess I will sidestep your arguments, because children like you aren't worth the time taking seriously. "
"like you aren't worth the time taking seriously."
yet you take my arguments seriously.
well in that case, i'm taking my leave. peace out turkey!
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"yet you take my arguments seriously.
well in that case, i'm taking my leave. peace out turkey!"
Last ditch words followed by exit. Stay classy.
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one more thing,
if i could describe you. i associate you with that one theme song from that 2005 puppet film about something with being at war with north korea. only i replace the terrorists lyrics and subtext parts of the song, and replace it with derogatory slurs towards the japanese.
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So you assume I would yell slurs at an entire race of people because I criticize one group of them. You really are a weaboo and a child, and that's why I didn't bother taking you seriously.
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"that's why I didn't bother taking you seriously. "
oh the irony.
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Says the retarded weaboo. lol
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Says the person stuck in the 90s.
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At least we didn't have to deal with weaboo's like you every day.
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i bet you're no where in your real life, you have no direction or barely have any hope of leaving your mom and dad's house at 32.
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That's just you projecting a fantasy onto someone else in order to feel good about you cock sucking for SOJ.
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"in order to feel good about you cock sucking for SOJ. "
i could apply this to you, with kalinske/soa/archie.
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I doesn't actually, as I've not had to go out of my way to defend Kalinske and SOA as you do SOJ and have nothing to show for it, and the archie thing is really just being mad at me preferring better out of Sonic, as you pretty proved when the first thing you talked about was "my views" and presenting nothing against it aside from me liking and defending them.
Or, I could just sum this up as you being a slave who's only interested in his agenda.
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