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Description How can this be defined as so called "Hate Art", in the last few hours people have reported this as such to the da staff, how is it hateful? Its not. The symbol has many different meanings and although the symbol to me represents the more well known german use of it, to me it represents the love for my race and culture. I dont hate all jews or blacks or anyone in between. Why should i? I dont hate anybody based on there skin colour but rather on there actions. I disagree with such a thing as "hate art" or even "hate crimes". If i kill someone because they sleep with my wife or if i kill someone because of the colour of there skin, how can one be worse than the other, the end result is the person is still dead and it was wrong to do.



this was done inside by a guy i was celled up with,we started here and did half the arm in bout 6 nites in a row
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phoenixtattoos In reply to ??? [2008-05-13 21:50:27 +0000 UTC]

Ah thats good to hear, cause so many are dickheads, say hail to him from me and thanks for the comments bout my artwork

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Cthylla In reply to ??? [2008-04-18 18:44:21 +0000 UTC]

aren't you scared that someone's gonna beat the shit out of you because of that?

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phoenixtattoos In reply to Cthylla [2008-04-18 20:00:32 +0000 UTC]

Nazism i know had its flaws , like most things, but it had a lot of good in it to, and that what attracts me. They were going back to a more pagan way of life, they put there race first and they banned christianity , which is all good. All the subsequent things that followed i dont whole heartdly agree with.

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phoenixtattoos In reply to Cthylla [2008-04-18 19:09:00 +0000 UTC]

Not at all, thats the last thing on my mind

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Cthylla In reply to phoenixtattoos [2008-04-18 19:19:30 +0000 UTC]

hmm... if you say so...
you're very talented by the way

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phoenixtattoos In reply to Cthylla [2008-04-18 19:25:26 +0000 UTC]

well thankfully i dont live in a backwards town where people would randomly attack people because of what they wear or for what theyre into, i wouldnt wanna live somewhere where people are like that, plus im a big boy and can look after myself

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Cthylla In reply to phoenixtattoos [2008-04-18 19:28:51 +0000 UTC]

hehehe, ok then
so, are you german or what?

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phoenixtattoos In reply to Cthylla [2008-04-18 19:40:18 +0000 UTC]

No, im a Kiwi, New Zealander, couldnt live probably any further from Germany and before you ask or assume i dont hate everybody who isnt white, i love my race and culture i dont hate others like so many people assume or tell me

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Cthylla In reply to phoenixtattoos [2008-04-18 19:46:58 +0000 UTC]

it's ok, i read the comments above. i agree with you about hating people for being people. you don't have to be a nazi to be bad, and to tell you the truth, most bad people i've met in my life are christians. almost everyone is a hypocrite... at least you stand up for what you believe in.

and i think you mentioned something about paganism, right? were your ancestors pagans?

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phoenixtattoos In reply to Cthylla [2008-04-18 19:54:12 +0000 UTC]

Thanks, yea i do get attacked on here a bit by idiots who simply see something they dont like then go on the rampage, most of these people are uneducated idiots. Ha yea i know exactlt where your coming froma bout the whole christian bullshit, are you from Norway? I know a few girls from there on here and they have the same pagan beliefs as you. Paganism is natural, christianity is foreign and alien and not the natural state of our people, none of anything of it is natural. Were my ancestors pagans? Of course, long before the cancer called christianty choked a once proud and free thinking people rather like the roman invasions did. My ancestrys mainly from Great Britian or Albion as it was called before the romans came and conquered it.

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Cthylla In reply to phoenixtattoos [2008-04-18 20:09:25 +0000 UTC]

no, not from norway, i'm from croatia (my ancestors were slavic pagans, which i am proud to say). i am sorry for all the crap happening to the world because of religions (and not only christianity). paganism might have been primitive, but at least there was respect for nature, which we lack of today.

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phoenixtattoos In reply to Cthylla [2008-04-18 20:32:37 +0000 UTC]

Ahh cool, ive been talking to a lady who hails from there originally, she left when she was 3 and resides in Australia now and her and her husband are going to fly ove rfrom there to get tattooed by me in a few month, shes a real nice lady. Yea i totally agree with you, i think all organised religions are evil and yea we totally have a disrespect for nature nowadays sadly

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Cthylla In reply to phoenixtattoos [2008-04-18 20:52:09 +0000 UTC]

well, perhaps you live in a more tolerant area. i, unfortunately, live in a very catholic country, and very few can be what they really are over here.
a guy in my class is 'sharp' (skinhead against racial prejudice, right?), but everyone keeps asking him whether he hates black people or jews and stuff like that. i always say, even in less than 18 years of age, it's the catholics who are uneducated and ignorant, not the rest of us...

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Cthylla In reply to ??? [2008-04-18 18:42:16 +0000 UTC]

oh, for fuck's sake....

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phoenixtattoos In reply to Cthylla [2008-04-18 19:10:05 +0000 UTC]

What??? If people dont like it they can get fucked

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DaringWhatnot [2008-04-04 13:00:57 +0000 UTC]

Germany is america, what are you saying?! We are independent, at least as any other country. Also our politics aren't influenced by America...
And Hitler doesn't built up our country, that was the "Weimarer Republik".
Hitlers only policy was, to exterminate the weak people. He said it is a never ending fight between the high-class and the low-class race. One of his quotes was: β€žWΓΌrde Deutschland jΓ€hrlich eine Million Kinder bekommen und 700.000 bis 800.000 der SchwΓ€chsten beseitigt, dann wΓΌrde am Ende das Ergebnis vielleicht sogar eine KrΓ€ftesteigerung sein.β€œ
It means, if the german became one million babys a year and you delet 700.000 - 800.000 of the weakest, you maybe have a increase in energy.
I think you should google about Hitler and the Weimarer Republik.

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DaringWhatnot In reply to ??? [2008-04-01 17:08:42 +0000 UTC]

i have nothing to do with america?! i'm german - and the statistics are done by german people.
i'm ashamed for the incidents - although my generation isn't responsible for it. it makes me sorrowful and angry to see that some people don't understand how bad the national socialism was. i don't know if you are ill-informed, incorrigible or a racist... but your tattoo is inhuman and the most abusive thing i've ever seen.

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phoenixtattoos In reply to DaringWhatnot [2008-04-01 20:32:28 +0000 UTC]

Germany is america, or modelled off it. The stats arent done by german people, history was written by the victors and sadly you lost the war. Do you even know the reason ww2 came about? Your country and people voted the man to power and he rebuilt your country out of the ashes that was left after ww1. I understand everything fully, obviously more than you do. I feel sad for you.

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DaringWhatnot In reply to ??? [2008-03-24 16:54:13 +0000 UTC]

facts about SOME concentration camps:

Brandenburg an der Havel (1933 - 1934), 1.200 inmates

Breitenau (1933 - 1934, 1940 - 1945), 470/8.500 inmates

Columbia-Haus (1934 - 1936), 10.000 inmates

Emslandlager (1933 - 1945), 80.000 inmates

Heuberg (1933 - 1935), 3.800 inmates

Kemna (1933 - 1934), 4.500 inmates

Leschwitz (1933), 1.500 inmates

Oranienburg (1933 - 1934), 3.000 inmates

Sachsenburg (1933 - 1937), 2.000 inmates

Sonnenburg (1933 - 1934), 1.000 inmates

... Arbeit macht frei - work makes you free... a life between fear, famine, epidemics and absolute debility...

... more than 6 million dead people... and what have they done? they were jewish...

Yippie ya yay National Socialism! Next week i'll get a Hakenkreuz-tattoo too!

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phoenixtattoos In reply to DaringWhatnot [2008-03-24 20:38:41 +0000 UTC]

The only people i feel sorry for after ww2 is you Germans, but theres still hope, i have met a few proud ones.

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phoenixtattoos In reply to DaringWhatnot [2008-03-24 18:28:57 +0000 UTC]

Well i see youve been spoon fed your pro jewish history well, history is written by the victors.These statistics coming from america, the country who told the world a few years ago that muslims had flown planes into the twin towers and the pentagon, i spose you were dumb and gullible enough to believe that to. What about the millions of people that died in Soviet gulags or the millions that have died in red China or the fact that these poor jews are killing innocent people everyday in a land they took through killing people and terrorism. I dont deny that certain facts of the darker side of ww2 happened, im just suspect of the validity of all the information were told about it and the fact the its illegal to even investigate it further, thats real suspect. As for me branding a swastika, it isnt to commerate people dying, to me its a symbol of pride in my race and heritage, i dont support mass killings of anyone but if your gunna start finger pointing get your fucking facts straight first and did you know that the british invented the concentration camp in the boer war.

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fatsac In reply to ??? [2008-02-14 20:21:48 +0000 UTC]

the fingers look bad ass

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phoenixtattoos In reply to fatsac [2008-02-14 20:28:47 +0000 UTC]

Thanks, was pretty sore to get done especially near the finger tips

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fatsac In reply to phoenixtattoos [2008-02-14 20:32:11 +0000 UTC]

ya sounds like it

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alexs-art [2008-02-14 18:02:05 +0000 UTC]

besides of the swastika, the tattoo is pretty great. it's different from most of all the motives you see very often.
i just can't understand how people can have the same opinion as the nazis had/have. there is nothing, really nothing, postive to say about their ideology. beeing a nazi is always connected with hate against others, no matter who these others are. if you don't have something against other cultures etc. you're definitely no nazi..

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phoenixtattoos In reply to alexs-art [2008-02-14 20:35:09 +0000 UTC]

Thats true but i also disagree with you about there being nothing good about them, and besides the swastika is not just a nazi symbol its been used by almost every culture.

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alexs-art In reply to phoenixtattoos [2008-02-15 11:53:12 +0000 UTC]

yeah true.. its a shame that hitler gave this symbol such meaning

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Shin-Mitsurugi In reply to ??? [2008-02-05 20:59:00 +0000 UTC]

You say you're not an "hatemonger" but you say something like this... "stupid sand nigger i dont really expect you to have the capacity in that tiny brain of yours to contemplate things like pride, heritage and race. Just leave that up to us whites and others that can understand that cause you obviously dont.". And also you're pretty misinformed, you say you're a nazi skinhead, but dont hate other races? That's the biggest contradiction I have ever heard of. Saying that you like being white, and that you are proud of your background is one thing, but saying that you are a nazi skinhead is something completly different. You really should do some research yourself and figure out what a nazi and a skinhead is. Unless those definitions are different in NZ than they are in Europe, you are either confused about the definition of "nazi" and "skinhead" or you're just plain stupid. No offense though, I hope you're just confused, for the good of the world, and your own...

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phoenixtattoos In reply to Shin-Mitsurugi [2008-02-07 19:40:02 +0000 UTC]

Does saying that make me a hatemonger does it? I dont really care what you think of me and being thousands of miles away and over the internet i think its pretty difficult to judge a person and really know what sort of person they are by reading something they wrote. The person i wrote that to was an asshole or they came across as one and they attacked and slandered me first, i dont actively go looking for fights on DA, i have better things to do with my time. yes i say im a nazi skinnhead, i interpret things how i want, you have other ideas about them, well good for you. I like alot of the nazi philosophy but i dont believe in it all and i think i would rather be a national socialist than a democrat, and yes i call myself a skinhead, is that not ok with you either, i dont care how the whole skinhead movement started and i dont care what your view on that is either and yes it is different in New Zealand. Now you call me stupid huh, why no how could i be offended by that, well i guess i must be then cause im certainly not confused about anything. Im happy with who i am and what i stand for.

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Zayshah In reply to ??? [2008-01-01 00:53:20 +0000 UTC]

Wicked tattoo. And while I agree that the swastika is distracting, after reading the comments I can see that you're not hateful, just proud of your heritage. More power to you, then (Plus, I'm a strong beleiver in the Hindi and Buddhist religions, and the swastika appears there as well. I guess it just all depends on how you place it.)

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phoenixtattoos In reply to Zayshah [2008-01-01 19:44:55 +0000 UTC]

Yea im not a hatemonger like so many other swastika sporting skinheads, so thank you for not condeming me and actually reading and researching a bit about me first. Power back at you. I get slagged off a bit on here, its quite funny, these people paint me as some big nazi whos so intolerant and hates jews n blacks whereas by the sound of there harsh critism there more prejudice than me, they look at me and automatically hate me whereas i dont do that with anyone, funny.

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Zayshah In reply to phoenixtattoos [2008-01-01 22:34:51 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, it also pisses me off when people do that. I try to read comments and replies before saying anything brash

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Terrormachine88 In reply to ??? [2007-12-27 21:45:05 +0000 UTC]

thats really a nice tattoo

hail from Serbia

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phoenixtattoos In reply to Terrormachine88 [2007-12-28 05:45:23 +0000 UTC]

Hail fucken Serbia, thanks dude, not bad for a jail homemade gun tattoo huh

88

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ZippersAndNox In reply to ??? [2007-11-25 08:45:15 +0000 UTC]

nice to see a nice tattoo coming out of prison. too many people half ass it. good to see someone taking pride in their art.

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phoenixtattoos In reply to ZippersAndNox [2007-11-25 10:00:38 +0000 UTC]

Thanks alot, i really love it to, yea its prettygood for a prison tattoo huh, heaps of pride in my art

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Photism In reply to ??? [2007-11-24 19:36:25 +0000 UTC]

oh my god...I can't believe you would actually spend all that time explaining your ideas...

It's pretty clear that's controversial swastika sign. I mean, I'm pretty sure you can get other designs that represent your ideas right? I don't know...may be you could'd rotated it another 45degrees? or may be change the circular background? but after all, you sounded like you've done a lot of researches about this sign.

I'm a Chinese, and a Buddhist, the swastika sign appears every, even right on the chest of many buddha statues. but the meaning the sign implys is just far from what Adolf Hitler's Nazi flag design does. oh yes, people asked/argued about it with me all the time too.

but hey, to be more precisely, without the white background and red flag your tattoo ain't not the Nazi flag no more...lol

I don't againt National Socialists, I mean, knowing who you are, where you came from and repect yourself for that, aint a bad thing. National Socialist German Workers' Party, founded in Germany in 1919 and brought to power in 1933 under Adolf Hitler. and Hitler did somehow started to advocate a different thing in the party, just like what he did to the swastika sign, he gave it a different meaning~

enough blah...what I'm trying to say is...the design of Nazi flag with a swastika sign, did come from Adolf Hitler. and it does represent his ideas, hey we gotta protect the copy right, and give credits to him, lol. so if you don't agree with him completely, may be the Nazi signs before 1933 would be a better option...

peace out bladha.

oh hey, just in case you'll get lazy explaining what a swastika is, send them this link from wikipedia: [link]

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phoenixtattoos In reply to Photism [2007-11-25 10:03:24 +0000 UTC]

And i cant believe you spent the time writing all that, thanks though and i think ill post that link to wikipedia next tim, ha ha.

Thats a really interesting couple of paragraphs you wrote there, i learnt something.

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IrieTribe In reply to ??? [2007-11-13 12:34:44 +0000 UTC]

O yeah and Im german, im left, and i hope u get ur fucking scull crushed in! And i wish i could spit in your face! and i hope your race gets extinguished!

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phoenixtattoos In reply to IrieTribe [2007-11-13 19:17:56 +0000 UTC]

yea, you look german, im not even guna to bother attacking you on here, ill save that for the battle to come

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IrieTribe In reply to ??? [2007-11-13 12:30:27 +0000 UTC]

Hello....
Im sorry but u are some white trash...seariously...U are from new zeeland...far far far away from everything...U prob have no idea what it means to have a swastika or to display it. U cant be proud of your heritage or of ur race... U can only be proud of things that u achieved with ur own being or actions... And ur heritage and race is something u are born in ...hence there is no way somebody can be proud of such things... A fucking sheep pretending to be a Nazi skin... man ... that is weird...even weirder than the jewish nazis.... Grow up and get ur shit straight u idiot.... U are extremely ignorant and u advocate a movement that has nothing to do with you or your country! How can u call urself a nazi and say " Other skin colors are aiit?" FUck that either u are a wannabe or just pure dumb!
PEACE!

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phoenixtattoos In reply to IrieTribe [2007-11-13 19:23:06 +0000 UTC]

listen rag head, i think its you who doesnt know much of anything, you are real tuff abusing someone down the end of the computer, any muppet can do that, so in that youve just proved your worth, which is the dirt on my shoes.n Being a stupid sand nigger i dont really expect you to have the capacity in that tiny brain of yours to contemplate things like pride, heritage and race. Just leave that up to us whites and others that can understand that cause you obviously dont.

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Wicked71 In reply to phoenixtattoos [2008-08-08 23:11:54 +0000 UTC]

Please… Sand nigger is so offensive. I prefer camel jockey or Jawa.

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IrieTribe In reply to phoenixtattoos [2007-11-18 15:40:00 +0000 UTC]

hello,

first of all im happy that u replied
second of all im not a sand nigger, im fully german living in a "sand nigger" place. I hope i formulated this sentence good enough so that u might understand. Well actually i dont talk only tough over the computer i talk tough even when a fucking nazi stands right infront of me and i did that many times... well i give you the freedom of expressing yourself but u should also deal with the response! Im happy that we have things such as the RAF and the AntiFA, it makes me sleep better in the night!
Peace out and i hope our paths will cross one day and we see what shall win, brutal force or a smart brains!

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obscura1560 In reply to IrieTribe [2007-12-09 13:51:23 +0000 UTC]

Lol, "brutal force or a smart brains". I guess you have neither

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IrieTribe In reply to obscura1560 [2007-12-15 16:02:00 +0000 UTC]

huh?

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obscura1560 In reply to IrieTribe [2007-12-15 21:26:51 +0000 UTC]

You're so aggressive. And you're saying you are smart. But you've put:

"I hope our paths will cross one day and we see what shall win, brutal force or a smart brains".

That sentence means your either dyslexic, or not very smart. Or using google translator.

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mike3540 In reply to ??? [2007-10-10 15:02:54 +0000 UTC]

love the swastika on the wrist, it looks sweet. my mum keeps telling me to get something like it on the inside of my arm

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phoenixtattoos In reply to mike3540 [2007-10-10 18:24:27 +0000 UTC]

Why would your mum tell you to get that, what does it symbolise to you both

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GassyGiant In reply to ??? [2007-09-11 13:00:38 +0000 UTC]

Wow bra, you got guts. Sieg heil!

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