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I onceHeard a song
At the world’s end
When chaos was
Burying me alive
When grief was
All that I knew
This song came to me
Like
A soft whisper
And in the dead of night
I knew everything
Would be
Alright
Sometimes
I hear it again
But never
In the same place twice
And it never
Comes when I’m watching for it
But some days
When things
Can’t get darker
When the sun
Has disappeared
And all life has
Run away to hide
I hear this song
Again
So
I will never stop
Trying to bring
This song
To you
Until in the dead of night
You know everything
Will be
Alright
The angels sing low
And as the snow falls all around
The heat builds inside
Rest your weary eyes
The dawn is coming
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Thank you! Finding just the right spot between vagueness and detail can make things really interesting, and that excerpt seems to capture it really well.
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I first heard that song over 30 years ago and that singular concept has haunted me ever since, the idea that we could remember in awe something we have not experienced ourselves. I just love that mysticism!
Your first stanza just hit me with that same familiar feeling that Jeff Johnspn's song did back then. "I once - Heard a song - At the world’s end" Nailed that for me because in order to do that you had to have been to the world's end and somehow returned. You could have stopped the poem right there and I would have been awestruck by the potency of that phrase. The rest carries that concept through very well and ends with such a powerfully encouraging message.
My friend, you have created something really really special here. If I could give it more than one fav I would. This is masterful and I love it!
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Thank you so much! I'm really humbled, being compared to such a great poem. Admittedly, "end of the world" is somewhat of an overused theme of mine. It is good to know that it still had an effect though. And knowing that it ends so well is super encouraging.
While idk if I'd say it was masterful, the fact you'd say it is... Like, really blows my mind. You enjoying it this much means so much to me. Ik I've said it already, but thank you so much!
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Uplifting and encouraging. Keep following that song. ^_^☆
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Aww... so heartfelt 
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Thanks! I was kind of tired when I wrote it, so it might be less filtered than usual and a bit more genuine.
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Haha, that does make sense c: It reminds me of something a singer from one of my favorite bands said, about how, while recording for their album, their producer would make him sing a part again and again and again, until he was so out of it that he gave his best take yet, hehe.
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Lol it's so weird how many things we do better when we're going off of intuition. Especially since one of the hardest things in the world to do is purposefully not pay attention to something. A lot of times we end up trying so hard not to overthink something, we end up overthinking it.
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Exactly! Oh, and from that same band too (Sabaton), one of their guitarists, Thobbe Englund, has what he calls "red light syndrome," so when the record button is clicked he freezes. So the producer secretly hit record, then told Thobbe to just practice the solo, and got up to go to the bathroom. Thobbe played the solo perfectly, the producer came back, and he hit 'stop,' hehe. Overthinking really is the enemy.
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Lol, sounds like a pretty creative producer. A lot of people don't do as well when they're performing for other people because they're self-conscious, or they get "stage fright". It's kind of ironic, because usually people are more nervous the more important it is for them to stay calm.
You've got me curios now though, I should look into Sabaton.
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For sure! Hehe. Though, Thobbe was quite the joker on-stage. I think it was just in the studio that he froze up. But you're definitely right. I've given presentations in front of lots of people and was decidedly not calm in the least :3
I love Sabaton. They're all such great guys 
youtu.be/BMhbBp0uxEU?t=2599
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You'd think it'd be the opposite, and he'd be more nervous on stage than in recordings. I guess people experience a lot of different types of performance anxiety. And ultimately, it's likely more will listen to the recording than are watching you perform. Personally, I think I'm more like you. Public presentation can be really stressful.
Haha, and I love that clip. It was really funny that Joakim was miming to the crowd to be quiet, kind of like "Guys, don't encourage him." It's so cool that they're music is awesome, but it's also based on historical events. There's an extra layer of depth that a lot of metal bands miss.
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I was thinking about this too, actually. It might be because of what you said, that more people will listen to the recording. That's the version of the song that people will always come back to, and you can never change something if you don't like it. Once the album is out, it's out. But in a live performance, if you play something and aren't satisfied with it, well, even if the performance is recorded, that's mostly for die-hard fans who won't care that you messed up, and you can always re-adjust on the fly too. And I just think there's a certain adrenaline that comes with playing live that might make things easier too.
That said, I wish we were like that too XD But I suppose there is a difference between a public presentation to people who would rather be home and playing to a crow of adoring fans
Hehe, yep! I'm glad you enjoyed it c: This is my favorite version of the gag, I think. They ran with it a lot more than they usually do. Aside from the awesome historical-themes, I just love that they don't take themselves too seriously and are good to one another.
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That makes sense. On stage it's probably easier to get lost in the music. And it's not like someone from the crowd is going to care if you make a small mistake. And who knows, maybe he had stage fright the first few times he performed, then after a few concerts he got used to it. And then he had the time to get comfortable performing live, but didn't have the time to get comfortable recording. And, it could be something about the more professional atmosphere that makes it harder. Man, I could go on about this all day lol.
You know the old sayin': if everyone was a door knob maker, there wouldn't be anyone left to tu-... Okay, nvm haha. The point is, it's probably good that we'd be more interested in smaller but more dedicated audiences, and others would be more interested in more distant but bigger ones. It makes things more interesting. Though it's definitely really frustrating when we get too locked in place.
That's another downfall of a lot of metal bands. They think everything has to be really serious and cool, than end up seeming kind of silly because they're overdoing it. You can tell that they actually get along well to. You can't beat people who simultaneously kickbutt and are wholesome.
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Exactly! And it's okay, I could too, hehe XD It's funny too, because Thobbe has released his own solo albums as well. I think he may have gotten use to recording in studio, like you said.
Oh, absolutely. I've never really gotten to choose my audience, though, but I agree that it takes all kinds :3 Even so, as you said, that doesn't mean someone would necessarily want to be stuck doing the same thing forever. Thobbe is a good example of that, because he recorded two albums with Sabaton, and did all of these world-tours, and then decided to branch out musically and try new things. He'll sometimes come back to play shows with Sabaton, though ^^
I've been thinking about that a lot lately, and you're right. I also agree that you can't beat that c:
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I didn't know he released his own solo albums. Sounds like he's pretty adventurous.
It's a good point that you never get to choose your audience. Admittedly, I probably would've chosen a bigger one, but now that I'm here this size seems satisfactory. And it's cool Thobbe's found a way to try new things. It's probably a lot worse to be locked into having a big audience than into having a small one, but he might've found a way out by branching off some.
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Swedish people are quite serious about their music, hehe. I heard that music education is compulsory there; that every child learns how to play an acoustic guitar, to the point that there will be so many laying around that kids will just noodle on them during lunch. It would certainly explain a lot. This is one of my favorite songs by Thobbe: www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOkmns…
It's good to hear that the size of your audience still works for you! What do you do, just out of curiosity? And yeah, I think so. I actually forgot until now, but there was also the time almost everyone in Sabaton left. It was the same line-up for about... five albums. And then both guitarists, the keyboardist, and the drummer all left, because Sabaton tours a LOT, and that kind of life isn't for everyone. They left right after the release of their album Carolus Rex, and that's when Thobbe and Chris and Hans came in to fill the gaps (two guitars and drums, Joakim handles all the synths and they just play backing-track lives), so Thobbe basically started out in Sabaton in the deep-end of the pool, by touring with them to promote that album. It's pretty crazy to think about.
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Lol that'd explain why it seems like so many hardcore metal bands come from Sweden. It's kind of hard to tell whether that's a good or bad thing though, because it might not be so great if some kids aren't into learning music. It is nice to see that they take a less conventional art form seriously, though. And that Thobbe song is really good. I might end up listening to more Thobbe than Sabbaton if all his music is instrumental. For me, it's just easier to write to.
So, "what do I do?" That depends on what ya mean. If you means in terms of content, I've only submitted poetry so far, but I've got plans for some pros in the future. If you mean in terms of building an audience, I usually just use groups to both publicize my poetry and find other people with similar interests. You asking me that kinda' makes me wonder, what do you do in terms of these? Of course, I've been watchin' you for a little while so I've got somewhat of an idea, but I'm not sure about the full range of what you do. And it's really surprising that so many people left Sabaton but they managed to stay afloat, especially after five albums. But they managed to pull it off, and it seems like they even left on good terms. Still, it undoubtedly wasn't easy for Thobbe to get thrown in so deep right away.
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Hehe. Well, metal did originate in Europe. There were those bands like Black Sabbath, Judas Priest, and Iron Maiden, who were pretty much the three original metal bands. And two different styles of melodic death metal were created in Gothenburg and Stockholm over in Sweden. And power metal, like Sabaton, sprouted up in Sweden, Germany, Finland, and countries like Italy and even Brazil. Then there's black metal in Norway. And folk metal is very widespread across much of Europe. And I just could go on XD But there's a history there, and everyone gets influenced by everyone else. You're right, though. Not everyone cares for music. But I'd like to think they had fun with it anyway, if nothing else. And yeah, I understand. I also like listening to music in other languages when I'm writing. Though, Sabaton's Carolus Rex was originally released in Swedish, so that helps ;3
Ooh, nice. I wish you all the best in your endeavors 
Well, Sabaton's primary songwriters were always Joakim and Pär, their bassist, so they have lost certain influences, and gained certain influences with new members, but always kept the foundation of what makes Sabaton Sabaton. And they and the original members are childhood friends, so there was never any bad blood between them when the others parted. In fact, during their twentieth anniversary concert, they got a bunch of their old members, including Thobbe, back to perform one of their songs. They played on two massive stages side-by-side, and oh my gosh the sound was.. huge XD Even just the two drum-kits together... Wow. And the unity of all those backing vocals together. Chills.
I really do consider it one of the most triumphant moments in music history. Any music.
Here, take a look: www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JvUMx…
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Admittedly, I don't know a lot about metal history, but it is interesting to see how, why, and where types of metal originated. Knowing the history behind just about anything can make it feel more alive. And it is a good point, that people'd at least have fun with music, even if they weren't especially into it. At least, most of the time you'd think that was the case. Also, I've never tried just listening to music in foreign languages. You seem to be onto something there.
Oh, you wrote a novel!? That's really cool! Did you publish that one, or were you just planning on publishing the one you're working on now? And a poetry collection sounds great as well. Mayhaps you're also considering publishing the collection? And it's understandable that you're not as interested in other kinds of poetry, since everyone has to find their own calling. Of course though, I wouldn't object if you ever wanted to shake things up some. And thanks for your good wishes. Best of luck to you as well!
It's good to know that Sabaton never changed too much. And man, that video's really cool. I've only been a fan of them for a couple days, but it still really gets me. I'm sure it REALLY had an effect on older and more dedicated fans. It also seems like they didn't tell anyone that "Civil War" would be performing with them, which would've made... Quite the surprise. What an awesome anniversary!
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Yeah, like Joakim once said during a concert that the band they were all listening to while dreaming of making it big was Judas Priest. They also covered their song "All Guns Blazing" once, for their "The Last Stand" album. And music in foreign languages helps a lot, hehe.
No, just the one I'm working on now. But I'm saying "never say never" for the first novel too. Hehe. Who knows. And yes, I'll be publishing the collection too. And thanks for being open to that c: I've had issues with that in the past. Not everyone likes it when I do that. But that's okay. Thank you again for your well wishes
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Ah, I listened to "The Last Stand" but I didn't know "All Guns Blazing" was a cover song. That would explain why the tone of it felt a little different from the rest of the album, though I assumed it was just 'cause it was a bonus song. It is cool to see how they were influenced by Judas Priest.
So it sounds like, you're publishing the collection and the novel you're working on now, and it's possible you'll publish your old novel but you have no plans to do so right now. That's really cool. And, of course I'm open to you changing things up some. It's probably easier for me, being a writer as well, to see how writing the same thing can get really boring. And thank you again, for your well wishes.
And that's some really powerful stuff. Anyone can say to always live your dreams. But when someone who somehow beat the odds and proved the doubters wrong by actually living their crazy dream says it, it's debatably one of the most encouraging things you can ever hear.
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Sabaton has done a lot of covers over the years, as well as a special series of semi-original songs that incorporate song titles and lyrics from other metal bands into their own lyrics. It really goes to show much reverence they have for those bands, and the spirit of metal music in general. They always end their concerts with "Metal Crue," and it just makes everything feel like one final happy, uplifting party before bidding farewell. Also, you can hear Rob Halford's vocals in "All Guns Blazing," which is pretty awesome too. He's Judas Priest's singer.
Yep, exactly! I might share that old novel with my friends exclusively, though, even if it doesn't get a wide-release. And I agree. As writers, we know how these things go. So it's easier for us to understand our writerly shenanigans. Hehe :3 Aww... always welcome, my friend
Yeah, it really is. Of course, in interviews, they've expressed how you really need to want it... But that's true for anything in life. You need to really want it. AND you need people by your side who will help you should you fall. Sabaton had that in spades. That's why they succeeded, and still are.
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That's really cool. I just read the lyrics to "Metal Crue", and it felt like they referenced a band in every line (though I only caught a few of them). It seems like a really good way to not just tie everything up neatly, but also to pay homage to their roots. And having gotten Rob Halford to do backup vocals sounds freakin' amazing. It's like two different two different generations uniting together.
Sounds great. And you're always welcome to, my friend
That's true. Just about anything in life requires both passion and support. It takes passion to keep you going, and it takes support to keep you from failing. Probably the most obvious example of Sabaton having support is that when half the band left they still managed to pull through. That's the kind of thing almost no one would be able to do alone. And even then, it'd presumably take a considerable amount of luck.
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Yeah, they're really good at that. Hehe. It's definitely appropriate that they highlighted Judas Priest and Iron Maiden in the first line of the chorus too. And it really is. Music isn't just educational, it binds us together ^^
Yep. Definitely. You're just sooo good... Kidding, hehe :3 I truly enjoy our talks, thank you
Very true. That's both the blessing and the curse of being in a band, I think. On one hand, all those extra people can help strengthen you, and you them, on the road towards your mutual dreams. But on the other hand, a band can just not be good to one another and self-destruct. Sabaton was very clearly not that kind of band, though!
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Yeah, not only did Judas Priest and Iron Maiden influence Sabaton, but they were important to the history of metal as a whole. It really was appropriate. And you're right, music really does bring us together. It goes deeper than all of our outwardly, well... Outwardliness, and speaks to our soul.
Oh, thanks! I really like our talks as well
That's always a risk. But the Sabaton members do seem to do a good job of that. Their songs are so hardcore, but they still seem to be respectful and kind to each other. It's probably thanks to the healthy social environment they've created that they're so successful.
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It's funny too. Judas Priest heard Black Sabbath and were like, "Woah, we want to do that!" And then Iron Maiden heard Judas Priest and were like, "Woah, we want to do that!" And all of these thrash bands started coming out in the US and were like "Woah, we want to do that... but better!" And at that point it all went full circle, with Judas Priest releasing this song and shutting everyone up, on both sides of the pond... :3 www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM__lP…
Music truly is the universal constant ^^
Awww~Yay!
There is actually an unwritten law in Scandinavian countries concerning respect and politeness, called the Law of Jante. I've been looking into it because of our conversation, and it's fascinating. It's not something that's enforced or anything. The police won't knock down your door if you misbehave or act too vainly. But people will shun you for being too proud of yourself and stuff like that. It's intriguing c:
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Lol, it's the circle of life. It's amazing how every band was inspired by one before it. That also explains why so many metal bands sound the same and like trash, if they're just ripping off the same really good ones. And it's freakin' amazing that Judas Priest just released Painkiller and was like "yeah, we're still the coolest one btw."
Yay!
The Law of Jante really does seem interesting. It looks like the ideas are used to discourage things like standing out or being too prideful. Things like this are always interesting because, living in the US, there's seemingly a big emphasis on individuality and self-respect. Sometimes, probably to a fault. In a lot of other cultures though, there's more of an emphasis on collectivism and humility, also probably to a fault. This kind of thing is really interesting.
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That's true. Nothing is truly, a hundred percent original, but there are ways to carve out your own niche anyway. I think Civil War came up with a good solution in that regard, because even though they focus on history like Sabaton, they write songs like "Dead Man's Glory," about an obscure bit of ancient Irish history, and "I Will Rule the Universe," all about the life of Napoleon Bonaparte. All things Sabaton probably wouldn't have ever touched on.
Yeah, I think veering too far into either extreme isn't a good thing whatsoever. But Sabaton seems to have struck a happy balance. It's just fascinating all around, though. I love learning about this stuff, not only because it's fascinating, but also because it makes me think about my own actions.
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Civil War sounds great to. With a bit broader area of a list of things to choose from, they can put their own spin on "historical metal". Maybe it's good nothing's entirely original, because no one would be able to fully explore their concept alone, I dunno.
You're right that veering too far into any extreme can be bad, and you're also right that Sabaton appears to have found a good balance. And it does seem like the world would be really boring if every culture was the same. Plus, then it'd be really hard to look at ourselves and the world around us as well. It's kind of like a different lense to look at everything through, there to assist us if we get to set on the ones we have.
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Very true. Joakim once said that the reason why Sabaton focuses on war is because it makes sense for metal. It would be cool to see a metal band focusing on history without that angle. It would be interesting to hear the results.
That's a great point! I think you hit the nail on the head, honestly. It's those different perspectives that make the world go round.
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It's interesting too, because a I think a lot of people assume Sabaton does too much to "glorify war" and things like that, but it's not really like you could make a really popular metal song about drinking tea on a rainy day... Well, most bands couldn't at least. And you're right that since the foundation is laid now, a band focused on other parts of history could be really interesting. IDK what you know about the Hamilton musical, but even though it's not metal, it does do a good job of making history come alive through music as well.
And thanks, I'll take that as a compliment to my ability to make good points lol. But yeah, that's part of why I think things like fan fiction aren't inherently bad or uncreative. Seeing other people's spins on things is super neat.
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Hehe. That's true. And I just find it so frustrating when people say that they glorify war. Sabaton tells stories from a neutral perspective for the most part, unless the subject matter is something they really can't help but take a clear stance on (and for good reason). "In the Name of God," for example, is about modern-day terrorists, calling them cowards and such. I pretty much always consider Joakim to be a great big teddy bear, but even I get a little shiver at how angry he sounds in that song. The way he just spits out the line, "Stand up and show me your face." There's also "The Final Solution," about Auschwitz... And "The Cliffs of Gallipoli" and "The Price of a Mile," both about utterly senseless slaughter. And in one interview, when asked if they could time-travel and fight in any past war in history, Tommy and Hannes pretty much just said, "Heck no," and are glad to never have to fight in one.
I've heard a lot about the Hamilton musical, actually, but I've never checked it out myself TT I do really enjoy musicals, though. Have you ever seen the musical Les Miserables? That's another great one focusing on history, albeit fictional history (but inspired by real-events).
You should! :3 You always make excellent points. And I'm a bit biased when it comes to fan-fiction, since I write it myself, but I do agree. And anyway, a lot of modern art is just fan-fiction with an official logo on it anyway. Comic books are a notorious example of this.
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Yeah, in a lot of things they seem to not represent any specific side. Or more accurately, they seem to represent EVERY side. As an example, there's religion *record scratching noises*. In "The Last Stand" they tell it from the perspective of the Swiss Guard, and sing about fighting "for the might of our Lord". But in "Burn your Crosses" (which I got the impression was probably based on The Inquisition), because of the perspective it's based on, it's much more anti-religious and about there being no God. They really do treat every side fairly. Except, as you pointed out, when it really makes sense for them to take a stance on something. Saying things about nazism and terrorism being bad obviously isn't close-minded. It also makes it a bit more awkward when people also say they're nazis, lol. But yeah, if people were willing to think about it, they'd probably realize just from the songs that they don't think bloodshed is good, it's just important to acknowledge that it happened. And man does it make for some kickass songs.
I haven't seen Les Miserables, but I've heard of it though. A couple of people recommended it a while back, but I never actually watched it. I should, now that you've reminded me. And historical fiction can be great because it tends to focus on things at a more personal level. While looking back on the entire history of the human race, being able to see what life was like for the average Joe can be really hard.
Aww, thanks. Hearing that the points I make are good actually means a lot to me. ^v^ *happy penguin noises* And you're totally right. At this point, probably every comic book writer in the world has made their own canonical version of Batman, lol. Big players in the film and video game industry seem to suffer from severe "franchise overmilking syndrome" as well.
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"The Last Stand" is such a good song, by the way, melodically. Oh my gosh, I know it's Sabaton, but they really struck gold with that one. Hehe. It also really does go to show how flexible they are in the stories they tell, because Joakim isn't a Christian, but he still has no problems (nor should he, really) about going "In... the... name... of... GOOODDD." Sorry, I just went off on a tangent there 
That's true. Although it's definitely fascinating to learn what those people did during those times. Also, Les Miserables is truly incredible. The version I recommend the most is the tenth anniversary concert. This is one of the performances from it, in which they gathered together all the actors from around the world who played the Valjean character to sing. It's incredible - www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPpkTg…
Hehe. Hooray for happy penguins 
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"The Last Stand" is really good. Like, seriously. That's the first song of theirs' I heard, when I looked them up, and it was quite the experience. And no need to worry about the tangent, it wasn't too long. And while you gotta feel bad for that guy, you also gotta admit that the story's still really funny. There's a reason some of us only ever us headphones, lol. Also, it's nice that such "untraditional" music seems to be accepted so well in a lot of countries. Even a well known metal band wouldn't fit in very well in your average US bookstore, haha. Of course though, that could also be because metal in general isn't as popular.
Oh wow, that's really overwhelming. In a good way, that is. It kind of goes back to how music brings people together. Seeing them all come together and sing the same song is amazingly powerful, especially since they're singing in their native languages. It's the kind of moment you can't really replace.
Thats uh... Quite an interesting outcome. Admittedly I'm not sure whether you're saying that it was a really touching moment or a really stupid one. It does seem a tad silly for Grampa Batman to get the crud beaten out of him by the entire bat family and then immediately beat all of them.
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That's awesome to experience "The Last Stand" as one of your first Sabaton songs
Phew! I always worry when I write tangents, but then I think... "I really want to mention this, though! But... should I?" And you're right about the headphones. Hehe. And I think Nordic countries in general are just really open about metal. Metal songs get a lot of airtime on their radio stations, for example. It's more normal there. I wouldn't say that's true for ALL of Europe, though.
"Overwhelming in a good way" is a great way to describe it, honestly. A fun fact is that Jeff Leyton, who represented Ireland, was actually born in Scotland, while Colm Wilkinson, the first singer, was from Ireland. But anyway, it is just so powerful. I always get so many chills watching it. It makes me feel... I don't know, is it wrong to say that it makes me feel pride for countries I have no ties to whatsoever? Hehe. But more than that, it just makes me love the unity we human beings are capable of.
Oh, no, no, it was stupid beyond any measure XD I know this post is getting too long to list all the reasons why it's so monumentally stupid, but even just by pure common sense, as you said, it makes no sense whatsoever that he won.
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Unfortunately, I can't watch the video RN 'cause my bluetooth headphones are out of batteries, but it looks really cool. And it was probably really interesting to be introduced to Sabaton through a metal a capella band, lol
Yeah, there's no need to worry 'bout the tangents. I haven't even noticed you going off on any. And you have to wonder why those countries are so much more open about metal. Maybe people like it more, or maybe people just dislike it less. It's interesting to think about the reasons behind things like that. And it is good not to accidentally overgeneralize.
So maybe they're not all singing in their native languages then, lol. Admittedly, that was really assumptious of me to say. It is interesting though. It's probably because they were singing in the languages they'd performed in originally. And it doesn't seem wrong to feel pride for countries you have no ties to, because though it's a strange phenomenon, it does happen. If anything, it seems like a good thing. While I personally don't think the human race will ever fully unite, it is things like this that remind us we're all humans, and we can accomplish beautiful things when we do manage to work together.
Ah, it's relieving to know we can agree on that.
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No worries ^^ It is really cool... especially the part when Joakim makes his big appearance in the end. Hehe. He's been known to pop up in other bands' music videos as well, actually. For "Pumping Iron Power" by GrailKnights, he shows up as this robot, basically, with his guest-vocals dubbed over it. And Van Canto is pretty awesome... But then Sly, their male lead singer left, and Dennis, one of their other male vocalists left. And it just hasn't been the same since then, unfortunately TT
That's good to know about the tangents c: And I'm not quite sure. Maybe it has to do with that collectivism we've been talking about? That there should be equal amounts of something for the whole. And since there is a whole group of the population that's into metal music, they probably see that as a good reason to give metal to the masses, or at least within that group. It's fascinating to consider.
Well the vast majority of Irish, Scottish, and also Welsh people speak English over their mother-tongues. In Ireland, most people don't even know how to speak Irish-Gaelic. And in Scotland, no one ever wanted the Scottish-Gaelic that was imported from Ireland. And while they still proudly mix in words from their Native Scots with English, as a form of slang, there's a history of English oppression, attempting to stamp out Scots by declaring it "the language of uneducated people and peasants." Scots never fully recovered from that. Welsh has the strongest influence, though. In fact, road-signs in South Wales all have Welsh names beneath the English ones, and Welsh is mandatory in schools in Wales. But English is still the primary language.
I'm glad my feeling pride towards those countries isn't a bad thing, then ^^ I agree, it's doubtful we'll ever fully unite, despite how incredible that would be, but you're completely right about the beauty we're all still able to create at times, and do create
Hehe. Sorry, I should have made that point clearer at the start.
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Lol, wouldn't it be great if it was always a surprise when Joakim did collabs. Then whenever he showed up in someone else's music video it'd be like "Oh my word, what!?" Of course though, then it'd be really rare to accidentally stumble upon those videos, but it's still fun to think about. I guess that's a weird thing to go on about, though... But yeah, it's sad when bands change like that. Usually, even when they're still good, it's just not the same.
That's a good point. In the US there seemingly tends to be a lot of different communities for people with specific interests, especially since the internet became a common thing. Because of that, a lot of barriers can be built up between different people and between different interests. Mainstream/popular media has become really soulless since they can't risk only appealing to one particular group, whereas in other cultures more focused on collectivism everything with some amount of popularity could more easily cross the line into pop culture.
That's quite an intriguing theory you've formed.
Huh, so a lot of them are "bilingual". I actually saw a statistic on the duolingo app (you've probably seen it to) that most people taking the Irish course were Irish themselves. They did say that it was mostly refugees, but it's still a really crazy idea. And it's interesting that English is still so common after all this time. I heard German was mandatory in nazi occupied nations as well, and just now realized that's probably why it's so prevalent in some European countries. Forcibly pushing languages on other countries is so messed up.
It'll be nice if we ever do unite, but the chances look slim. At least, the chances of us uniting for more than a couple years before everything falls apart, thanks to an attempt to genocide all brown eyed people, look slim, lol. There's nothing wrong with still doing the best we can though
You shouldn't worry 'bout it. What you meant was really clear, considering the context. I just wanted to make sure.
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Aww, I don't think that's weird at all! I think that would be pretty awesome to make his collabs a secret. It would be fun, and might even drum up more interest in the song than if they had just outright said, "Hey, Joakim is in our song, you guys!"
Yeah, exactly! It's a bit sad, I suppose. But at least good music can find its way to anyone, no matter the border, so that's something at least :3 And ha! That gif is hilarious. Thank you for liking my theory
Ooh, I haven't seen that statistic, actually. That's really interesting. And at least people in those German-speaking countries are able to have fun with it. I remember watching a video once that was about a German lady who goes to Austria to hear the different slang they used, even though they're all technically speaking German. It's quite funny.
Yeah, definitely
Thanks for the reassurance
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That's good to know. Though that kind of risk an be hard to take, it probably would be a lot more fun to rely on word of mouth. Like, people could send the video to their friends and say they should check it out, but not give away why. I guess it an be hard to take that risk though.
Yeah, good works of art seem to always work out eventually, despite things like backlash. IKR, the gif gets me every time haha. And that theory actually is really good.
I was actually misremembering the statistic and it was that the most popular course in Sweden was Swedish, if I recall correctly. I'm a big ol' silly. But yeah, breaking those language barriers an be really useful I suppose, though doing it to make people more submissive doesn't seem very benevolent. I'm assuming that the humorous differences in the styles of German are similar to differences in UK, US, and Australian English. Those're always fun.
Yeah, it's always good to keep tryin'.
I don't know a lot 'bout comic books, but that still sounds really ray. Having hero's grand return lead to him going ray and the source of his power killing everyone around him sounds completely bonkers.
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Hehe ;3 And yes, true. I can definitely see both sides of the argument. I know, though, that it would be fun to send you a song like that, without the guest-musician's name in the title of the video, and await the response! It's funny, though, because just last night I received a recommendation on YouTube for Nanowar of Steel's new music video, and as soon as I saw "featuring Angus McFife of GloryHammer" I literally dropped everything I was doing and clicked on the thumbnail so fast XD So that method still works.
For context, GloryHammer is another power metal band, who play their own characters in their own universe. All of their songs are about that. King Angus McFife is the character played by their lead singer, Thomas Winkler. Nanowar of Steel is a metal parody band. I don't know if you can listen to songs now, but this is it. I dare you not to laugh at least once! www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9WWz9…
Yep! It's just like how we still listen to music from as far back as, say, the 1400s. Good works of art transcend time and distance. Haha. Thank you again
Ooh, really? Wow, that's so odd. Why's that, do you know? And that's true. The reasons for it are far less than ideal, but it's just nice that people can turn a bad thing around, I think. And it really is similar to all that! I remember watching a video of some English guitarists who I love to bits, and they were having a quiet back-and-forth, when the subject eventually turned to them visiting the US... One of the guitarists, Rob Chapman, mentioned how he went up to a cashier at a grocery store asking where the water is, and the cashier had to bring out the manager, but neither of them understood poor Rob. Hehe.
Superman really is wholesome :3 And ray, that's a new one for me! It's ray indeed. And it's not just a sign of character assassination. I think comic books have just been getting too dark lately. Way too dark. It's just sad.
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Yeah, it'd be fun to send you something like that too. The old fashioned way really does still hold up well though, lol.
And I did watch the video, and it was super funny. In the opening it seems like it's going to be a christian song, but then it's like "psych!" and switches to singing about freaking Odin. That totally killed me. It's also good to know what really happened to all the vikings: they followed their lord and savior Odin into the furniture production business! XD
Some things are just so great that they end up being timeless. And 'welcome! ^_^
I think they said it was mostly by refugees, which would kinda' make sense. A lot of the refugees probably don't know Swedish very well, and have to use Duolingo to keep their skills sharpened. At least, that's what I'd assume. Of course, a good thing from a bad things is still a good thing, if that's no confusing lol. Seems like most nursery rhymes and holidays all have some sort of dark origin anyway. And those confusions can be frustrating at times, but they really are funny if people don't take things too seriously. Rob probably just about lost it at the time though, haha.
And yeah... I was totally using "ray" because it's slang, not because I meant "crazy" and accidentally messed it up. Lol, it actually was just a typo. But yeah, comic books seem like they've hit puberty in a way, lol. Probably since a lot of their audience was growing up and a lot of people didn't take them seriously they're just like "pfft, I don't wanna do any of the kids stuff anymore. I'm too mature and cool." Hopefully, like puberty, it's still just a phase though, haha.
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There's definitely a method to both mad...nesses?
Hahah, yep! XD I just loved everything about that song and video... I thought it was nice that they gave a shout-out to Amon Amarth and HammerFall as well. They're both huge Swedish metal bands. Amon Amarth is all about Norse mythology, whereas HammerFall loves telling epic tales, and their mascot Hector also wields a giant hammer.
Exactly! And those timeless pieces go on to influence other pieces, some of which will go on to be timeless as well (maybe?), and then influence other pieces... and the cycle continues.
Oh, oops. I totally forgot about your refugee comment earlier when thinking about your Swedish comment
Ah, okay. I just sort of figured ^^... But totally not your fault, of course.
Hopefully so! Well, at least there's stuff like DC Superhero Girls and Teen Titans Go for younger audiences. But on the comics side of things, there hasn't been much of a push.
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