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Published: 2010-08-02 04:06:08 +0000 UTC; Views: 7648; Favourites: 277; Downloads: 92
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I see so many young fans drawing Knuckles on the outdoors Master Emerald shrine from Sonic Adventure, guarding the Master Emerald.Which strikes me as boring and unsafe. What's Knux do when it rains? He's setting himself up to die of exposure.
No, before SA, there was the Hidden Palace, deep in the bowels of the Floating Island, where the Master Emerald was hidden. And after having it stolen so many times, I don't think Knux would just leave his emerald out in the weather. He'd keep it hidden. In the dark. In the palace. And he'd guard it with WEAPONS.
Shadow's got nothing on Knuckles's weapons cache. I imagine that by this time, Knux's paranoia knows no bounds.
Made hastily in Painter. Pillars made by tracing a photo of pillars in Egypt.
Edit: Added some texture and made the shading a little less sloppy. Still kind of sloppy, but this wasn't meant to be a real fancy pic anyway.
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Oh, woooow! This is cool, Knuckles with a shot gun! A Shot gun!!
But, yeah, you have a point with the emerald being outside all the time. The palace you made looks beautiful, and other worldly, and looks like something you'd expect to see in a fantasy story! Just one question though, how did Knuckles bring the emerald down there? Did he carry it?
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In my fanfics, it took Knux and the Chaotix, and they lined up a couple of teleporters so they only had to move it a few feet. I love drawing Hidden Palace. It's from Sonic 3 and Knuckles, and it's nearly as spiffy in game. Just google it for a look. People are always doing panoramics.
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I know this is an older drawing but I came across it and really love it. I love the design of it all really, it's beautiful and peaceful. I like the idea a lot.
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BEAUTIFUL. As soon as I seen this I knew exactly where it was - Hidden palace. Excellent interpretation of it. Retro with a new spin on it. Well done.
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lol it almost look like Nazis zombie level XD but nice art dude :3
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as beautiful as this is.. Knuckles stays outside. he did on an episode of sonic x 
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Purty...!
Must...learn...to do...cool...glowy...thingy....
(Must learn to draw so I have something to do cool glowy thingy on. 
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I do believe you would be right.
Those young fans are just drawing it how the Sonic X cartoon and Sonic Adventures portrays it though. So you really can't blame them.
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SWEET CHAOS, YES. I love the lighting on this, it feels all nice and dark just like any good hidden epic temple should. I also agree with you about the logic of having him with the Master Emerald in Hidden Palace rather than on that SA shrine, if you ask me, I think that this would have looked a lot better and made a heck of a lot more sense. Also, I just like the idea of a super-paranoid Knuckles guarding the Master Emerald with a giant weapons cache, but that's just me
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LOL looks like KTE took some advice from Shadow and got himself a boomstick! lmao
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Wow, the coloring here is incredible 
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Great pic and understandable. I never really understood why Knuckles is always leaving the emerald out in the open.
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I'm sorry dude but you just ruined it by giveing him a gun.
He's a martial arts master, to use a gun would be going against his tribes code.
The only reson he has the spikes on his knuckles is cause his tribe would use the Master emerald's energy to grow them, hence the Knuckle clan.
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Knuckles with a shotgun seems SO much better than Shadow with a handgun. Probably because it gives off that "Git off mah property" vibe
For a quick paint, this was done beautifully. I should speed paint more.
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I think if any of the Sonic characters should use an arsenal, then Knux totally should. He's got to be paranoid by now about folks stealing his emerald.
Also, tracing backgrounds ftw.
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Yes, at least he has probable cause. The others, they just randomly slapped weapons in their hands.
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Its Knux with a shotgun! RUN FOR YOUR LIVES
[Plaque above Hidden Palace entrance:]
ABANDON ALL HOPE YE WHO TRESPASS HERE
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The Hidden Palace is a far more appropriate hiding spot than the shrine. Knux with a shotgun makes me lol!
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this is awesome! i love the lighting and perspective
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hmm... you know, after watching Predator... those predator spike things on the back of his head... that muzzle on his body armour...
Yeah, obviously an echidna. See, now hes actively trying to kill everything to prevent them from stealing the emerald.
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I understand him being in a temple, but where the hell he get the boomstick? XD
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DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNGGG!! That's so friggin' awesome!!
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Cool crystals from the ceiling!
They really look like they are glowing.
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knux with a gun? heh oh well i guess it was going to happen eventually XD
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Hidden Palace is the only true home of the Master Emerald this is truly awesome
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Darn, I remember that weapons cache.
I very much like the shiny-ness of the floors and pillars - I love the way they reflect the colours of the crystals. I have to admit, due to the very blue theme I thought for a few moments that it was an open top structure, and that the crystals were very weird lightning - but then I read the description. In the Hidden Palace, where does so much of the blue light come from? Anyway, it's very nice for a quick painting.
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I love the shiny marble-like surface of the floor, and the way the colors reflect off of it. Kudos for the pillars too, I can never work up the patience to work with them. I love the idea of Knuckles wielding a shotgun. "BROKE INTO THE WRONG BASEMENT, DIDN'T YA?" BLAM!
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Are you aware that .jpg is lossy and detracts from the quality of your work? You keep saving in that format and I just can't understand why. Maybe you have some sort of good reason I am not aware of.
As far as the piece itself... there's just this random black scribble in the upper right I can't comprehend. The pillars themselves are also inconsistent; I understand depth and its relation to loss of detail, but you have some closer to the foreground that have almost no detail in even the border, some in the background are random triangles amidst flat walls... Unless your echidna society were completely ADD, I would envision a palace such as that to be mostly consistent at least in the pillars all the way down the walk. You mentioned tracing some photo from Egypt though - I suppose I can let that go if those pillars really were in disrepair.
I'm also not sure about the light source and the shadows. I haven't studied light too much, but Knuckles' shadow(s?) seem to be working as if there were multiple light sources very close up - instead every visible light source is far off in the distance, and the setting would imply that there's even more directly above and behind the POV, which would imply that his shadows should be a little more evenly disbursed around him rather than just an obtuse angle. Even if that's not the case, and the only light sources are to the front of the POV, his shadows seem a little too strong, and also really strangely divided.
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I hear you, X. I don't really save stuff as JPEG anymore. I'll keep a temporary JPEG version for posting but I'll save the permanent as PNG at least.
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Hey, lossiness may suck, but it also sucks when all your viewers hit the back button before your art was done loading because the 3MB PNG took so much longer than expected to load, as compared to a 500KB JPG.
PNG may be lossless, but in painted art and photography, the file sizes are often 3 to 10 or more times larger than even a 100% quality JPG.
Basically, a JPG at 85% or higher quality looks so similar to PNG-24 that there's really no justification for using PNG, unless you're saving images with limited palettes (IE cel shaded works), or you need transparency, which is where it excels.
That's the "good reason" as to why almost all artists and photographers are still using JPG for web publishing.
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I can accept that point to an extent, but the world is fast approaching a point where a 3MB image is laughable to load. In addition, DeviantArt has both a small view and a full view mode for most works, which will itself cut down on the load time by giving people a smaller peice.
Above all else though, there is virtually no point in using jpg for digital works; the piece won't be seen in any other form, so why not choose the best format available? To put it in perspective for you, this would be like artists of old working for however long they worked on a beautiful piece, only to ultimately decide that the world should see the work behind three thick slabs of glass, all of different colors - and not for artistic value, but instead so they could place it outside, but safe from sun, theft, and weather, so more people could see it. The end effect is that the the original work would look almost smoky, and hard to analyze - impossible to even accept as beautiful.
Art is a medium of beauty, and settling for anything less than 100% is completely counterproductive to what the medium is.
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Yes, and one day we'll be there, but we aren't yet.
My 56k friends still wait 9 minutes + to load a 3MB PNG. On my satellite connection, I only get about double that speed. Even if everyone had T1, it's still half a minute. And when you're on that speed you pretty much expect every image to load in less than 5 seconds. XD
Furthermore, I still have the original PSD in 100% perfect quality, so I can "upgrade" the published JPG by replacing it with a higher quality copy. When I first started publishing art in the early 2000s, I tried to get sizes under 200kb. Then I went to 350kb or so. Now I'm at 700kbish. And, I started publishing webcomic pages at 500px wide, then 720px, and now I'm going to 1000px. And someday, when lossless is reasonable, I'll go to that, too, and with joy, because I hate seeing compression on my work. But frankly I suspect a better format will be invented/supported before PNG-24 ever becomes viable for millions of colours images.
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56k may still exist, but it's also very uncommon now. Mind you, I'm not some spoiled guy who has had fast internet forever. I had dialup for a good two years, and my experience during that time was very image-heavy, reading thousands of webcomics. There's an interesting point there; if people actually like your work, they WILL sit through any load time, especially if they know it's the best quality available. I guess it's just me, but every jpg artifact I see makes me respect the artist that much less. (This reached levels of infamy when I started seeing jpg artifacts on ANIMATED TELEVISION. I dropped a whole series because they couldn't stand to give us the best quality.)
It's all well and good to say you can upgrade them later, but then you lose your hard drive to some sort of calamity - suddenly you won't be able to, and you will be remembered as a .jpg artist in the distant future. (Maybe this is an extreme point, but nonetheless - I think it's safe to say no artist who saves their work in their program's file type will upgrade it unless some freak demand for it came up. An unlikely event.)
As for your last point... The thing about better formats is that they won't come any faster if there isn't an obvious demand for them. If people are content with jpgs, nobody is going to research better, probably because it's difficult to get the new format out to every single computer. If PNG or even LESS lossy formats(which I'm sure exist, I'm not well-read on that though) became more widespread though because they presented clear images, effort would go into researching more space-efficient formats that do the same.
Incidentally, I did a quick google search for 3MB images and I was presented with many incredibly high resolution images, larger than my screen. Those equal or lower than my resolution used countless different colors; without the source image I can't know for sure, but given the choice and array of colors for NR's image, I have my doubts it would be even close to 3MB. I could be wrong though.
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It seems Knuckles has a special soft spot for the double barreled shotgun. XD His enemies should be glad it isn't sawed off.
Brilliant picture as always. I love the perspective in this one!
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