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geekogecko [2016-03-21 12:03:42 +0000 UTC]
This is fantastic, Lord F-San!
I've been issued a fic challenge prompt to be based off a fan art, and with your permission, I'd like to use this as the basis for my fic. Β It will be a one-shot, and I'll link you to it when it's done if you want.
Thanks!
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BWS2K [2014-07-28 02:45:01 +0000 UTC]
Nicely done!
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Neko-Mimi-Misa [2012-03-16 05:32:10 +0000 UTC]
At that age he wouldn't be a Padawan he would be a Youngling, training to become a Padawan. Once he is 13 he can become a Padawan but only if he is chosen by a Jedi Master/Knight.
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warui-shoujo In reply to Neko-Mimi-Misa [2012-03-17 06:57:40 +0000 UTC]
Technically in the New Jedi Order(Luke's Order) age doesn't matter. So depending upon the setting, age really wouldn't matter. Stop trying to sound like a superior high uber star wars nerd buff.
It's a piece of art, not fucking debate class for you to freely troll.
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Neko-Mimi-Misa In reply to warui-shoujo [2012-03-19 03:05:42 +0000 UTC]
I wasn't trolling. Otherwise I would have been rude about it. I was trying to be informative.
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warui-shoujo In reply to Neko-Mimi-Misa [2012-03-19 05:37:07 +0000 UTC]
Keyword "trying" and you failed miserably at best. Go find some other Star Wars n00b to harass in a forum after you study extensively over at wookiepedia and not someone's art and the technicalities that have nothing to do with the way the artist executed their vision on this piece.
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Lord-FSan In reply to Neko-Mimi-Misa [2012-03-16 06:55:51 +0000 UTC]
Technically, 13 is what is thought to be the limit age to find a Master. A youngling could become a padawan before the age of 13 (see Anakin, age 10, taken by Obi-Wan (deemed too old by the Council, though in this case it would be "too old to be a youngling" in my opinion)).
If by the age of 13, the youngling didn't have a Master assigned to him, he would generally be sent to other duties and his Jedi training dropped.
!3 years old is thus not the age at which a youngling becomes a padawan, but the limit of age after which a youngling become "too old" to be trained as a Jedi.
What's more, though a Jedi Knight/Master "chooses" his padawan, it has to go through the agreement from the High Council, which can be denied in some cases. (Again, most famous example, Qui-Gon Jinn requesting to put Obi-Wan through the Trials so he could train Anakin. The Council also disagreed with Obi-Wan training Anakin even though they eventually went with it as Obi-Wan insisted on honoring his master's last request.)
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Neko-Mimi-Misa In reply to Lord-FSan [2012-03-16 22:06:17 +0000 UTC]
No if by the age of 16 he didn't have a master he would be recruited into the Jedi Service Corps. Don't base all your facts on the movies because there is so much more to the Star Wars Universe than the movies, especially the prequel trilogy, because as we all know George Lucas threw in Metaclorians but now he has decided they don't exist or at least hasn't mentioned them in the other two movies of the prequel trilogy because he realized it was a bad idea.
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Lord-FSan In reply to Neko-Mimi-Misa [2012-03-17 01:33:29 +0000 UTC]
Ok. First off, I'd like to say that I was watching Star Wars before you were even born.
Now let's follow your train of thoughts. Limiting ourselves to the movies is, well, limiting indeed as you pointed out, so I will agree on that.
Let's talk EU. You give ages and :facts", but what are your sources?
Which era are you talking about?
Luke Skywalker's New Jedi Order wa taking Padawans that were already adults, because he was rebuilding the Order from scratch.
During the Old Republic, Revan was taken as "apprentice" even though he was an adult (albeit he had been a Knight earlier in his life.)
During various times through the history of the Jedi Order, the High Council has been known to be from very strict about the rules regarding age to very lenient, or even breaking their own rules.
The Jedi Service Corp, traditionally, wasn't only limited to "too old" younglngs/padawans, but also to younglings who would have failed the trials at the end of the youngling stage, and/or at the end of the padawan stage, as well as for younglings who typically didn't have a master after a certain age.
Again, the age varies depending on the period we are talking about, considering wars and times of peace.
During the Old Republic, until its destruction and the destruction of the jedi Order in 19 BBY, it was actually found that less and less younglings were sent to the Service Corp as the High Council was less strict about age limits.
To go back to the movies, absolutely nowhere in any of the movies is a limit age given. the best we have from the movies is "he's too old". So clearly I am not basing my knowledge only on the movies.
To keep going that way, the movies are what basically made the Star Wars universe (whether one likes the new trilogy or not, accepts it or not, is another story. As a true Star Wars fan, I love all the movies, which doesn't prevent me from pointing out stupid stuff especially from the new trilogy.)
The expanded universe, being born from what the original movies started, is quite expanded indeed, and you'll notice that what is considered canon is sometimes contradicted by something else also considered canon.
While I'm passing by, it's "midi-chlorians". Please at least have the decency to spell properly so you can seem like you know what you are talking about.
Now to go back to the image, since your original comment was on this, and to link it to my own reply here, I have not specified anywhere in my "artist's comment" the era depicted.
This young boy obviously is not wearing the traditional padawan outfit as seen during the last days of the Old Republic, so it could be from the new Jedi Order, or maybe even from the beginning of the old Republic. Or he could be a padawan taken right from 19 BBY wearing casual clothes.
All is a matter of interpretation, but when you throw facts at people, you better know what you are talking about, and be ready to back it up with sources.
In that specific image, titled "Padawan", it is indeed a young Padawan who is depicted, by my standards and point of view.
So please don't try to lecture me or teach me that "there is more to Star Wars than the movies." I probably was reading Star Wars novels and comic books at a time you were possibly still playing with Barbie dolls and had never heard of Star Wars.
If you have any constructive comment regarding this particular painting on an artistic point of view, you are more than welcome to give me your feedback
PS. I agree that the midi-chlorians bs was a bad idea. There was no need to explain the Force to this level in my opinion... It's just one of the many things that annoy me from the new trilogy.. lol
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ObiXAhsoka [2012-02-26 05:58:29 +0000 UTC]
So cute! Do you think you could draw Obi-Wan as a Youngling for me?
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AyA-KR [2009-09-14 20:28:36 +0000 UTC]
I like his expression
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Laharl234 [2009-06-21 07:21:07 +0000 UTC]
Kids actually play a large part in Star Wars, but are never focused on when they're clearly prime story material. And I mean real kids, younger than 15. Luke was not a kid, he was 19. Anakin in Ep. 1 is more like what I mean, and whatever people will say about the prequels, at least Ep. 1 focused on a little kid and how they feel about everything that goes on.
As young Jedi, little trainee Jedi like this could feature in many things, and since in the Old Republic Jedi were like 5 when they started training, by the time they were preteens, general child hero age, they would've been relatively well skilled depending their potential.
Also Sith kids are rarely drawn or written about, even though it was common for Sith to abduct an extremely young Force potential to train them.
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Lord-FSan In reply to warui-shoujo [2008-05-21 02:46:04 +0000 UTC]
why doesn't this surprise me ? lol
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Nemonus [2008-04-01 04:37:23 +0000 UTC]
Aw, so cute--but tough-looking too. I like your Star Wars art.
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Nemonus In reply to Lord-FSan [2008-04-01 06:43:52 +0000 UTC]
You're welcome.
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WillFactorMedia [2007-09-16 15:58:40 +0000 UTC]
Dude, that's way cool! Great job!
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elcraxoenormo [2007-06-29 13:59:21 +0000 UTC]
huarry houl! = "very cool"
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rakxina [2007-06-22 17:46:13 +0000 UTC]
Hmmm, this Padawan is hard working, does almost everything right, but thinks he's ahead of everyone else when he's being left behind, is that right?
well if it isn't, thats how i am, and i still don't have a Master
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Lord-FSan In reply to rakxina [2007-06-22 22:59:32 +0000 UTC]
This padawan is indeed hard working and does things right as much as a learner can do. He doesn't really think he is ahead of everyone else, but he might be too sure of his abilities and a bit over-confident, which could make him arrogant and many mistakes could come from that. But he will learn to follow the ways of the force and he will get wisdom from what he learns of his masters and of the universe he is bound to travel.
Being confident is one thing, a good thing I may say, but being too much and thinking too highly of yourself will just lead you to mistakes you might regret later and you could eventually fall.. The higher you get, the deeper you fall.
Follow your heart, but don't leave your mind behind, for it is it that can save you eventually.
I don't know if I can be your Master, but I can help you find your way, if you desire so.
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rakxina In reply to Lord-FSan [2007-06-24 12:56:07 +0000 UTC]
Yes i desire that, that might work, so what should i do?
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rakxina In reply to Lord-FSan [2007-06-30 16:20:36 +0000 UTC]
ok, thanks
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Nirelleth [2007-05-12 16:53:49 +0000 UTC]
I already told you that I think it is fairly cute and yeah I still think so. I love the pose of the kid, he looks so focused on the flying ball.
But what I think, it seems that he is flying abit above the ground...well maybe that is just me, lol.
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MysticYuna [2007-01-28 15:39:31 +0000 UTC]
Wow, great coloring, mi amigo! I just love how you improved. A little bit more and you're getting there!
Just wanna comment about the kid Padawan, I like the way you colored the lightsaber, only that it's a little thinner. Also, since the light came from the boy's weapon, maybe you should've given a greenish reflection effect on the kid, and the light source should be on the left side, because your shading on his clothes went everywhere. Try to put the shade on one corner, where the darkness is located at. Make it a one-way shading. Trust me, it will show a much greater effect.
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Lord-FSan In reply to MysticYuna [2007-01-30 00:15:30 +0000 UTC]
Hey, thanks Jenny ! Your comment finally
Actually, all you say is perfectly right, and to tell the truth I thought about it while making this picture (the shading and green glowing effect..), but I did this very quickly.
I made the lightsaber at the very last moment, and I didn't feel like fixing it.. (you know me and how lazy I can get at times.. )
The lightsaber itself looks a bit to thin indeed, but this has two explanations. The first one, is that this kid is a padawan. Padawan are given "training lightsaber" until they come to age and maturity enough to build their own. Padawan are not supposed to fight, at least at this age, and so you could assume they have a less powerful lightsaber, wich explains the size of the blade. And as you know, the width of the balde also depends on the width of the hilt. A kid has by definition smaller hands than an adult, therefore they won't have "big" lightsabers..
The second reason, and I know you'll believe this one more than the first one (), is that I made it like that, thought it was a bit small (not wide enough), but once again got lazy enough so I didn't remake it.. (and you know by looking at the tutorial I wrote myself that it takes approx 2 minutes to make a lightsaber blade.. lol)
Anyways, thanks for your constructive comment, I really appreciate it, and you know that
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Elysium-Arts [2007-01-28 12:56:26 +0000 UTC]
thats great my son loves it (he is starwars mad!)
wonderful work (my son is the model you used btw ^^ )
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