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Kon92-chan β€” Draw This Again Meme

Published: 2012-08-23 13:03:41 +0000 UTC; Views: 2598; Favourites: 41; Downloads: 0
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Description I really wanted to draw this picture again. It's my most viewed deviation but I've found her appearance kind of gross for ages.

The redo is just a quick drawing on A5 paper so it's simpler than the original but what I really wanted to test was how I had improved style and anatomy wise.

Original Drawing: [link]

New Drawing: [link]

Edit: Fixed the arm on the second one thanks to a really helpful review from
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Comments: 39

PoisonIvy131 [2015-06-26 15:46:26 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, I like the old one better, especially the hand.

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Honeyhaymen88976 [2014-11-10 13:33:08 +0000 UTC]

Old is gold. I prefer the old one.

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Faithful-Imagination [2012-10-27 08:31:01 +0000 UTC]

This is very pretty!

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Solarblaze-cat [2012-10-13 16:24:03 +0000 UTC]

I prefer the one on the left, but the one on the right has better anatomy and is also pretty c:

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Catsurin [2012-09-09 10:53:31 +0000 UTC]

Love the anatomical improvement, but I like the old flowers :]

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Kon92-chan In reply to Catsurin [2012-09-15 05:16:15 +0000 UTC]

Me too but I was too lazy to draw them in. Haha. The new flowers were much quicker than the old, detailed ones.

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Titanairbenderpony [2012-09-02 13:45:36 +0000 UTC]

both pictures look amazing! it really just depends on what kind of style you like.
i prefer the one on the left but the one on the right is just as pretty

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Kon92-chan In reply to Titanairbenderpony [2012-09-02 13:50:22 +0000 UTC]

Thanks! I totally understand. The one on the left is a lot more traditional manga style and I know that's what the majority of people on deviantart prefer.

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Titanairbenderpony In reply to Kon92-chan [2012-09-02 17:44:37 +0000 UTC]

mmmhhmmm and the other is more realistic. both are still awesome though

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WhiteLilyDragon [2012-08-28 09:39:19 +0000 UTC]

I'm honestly more charmed by the style used in the first one, but the tree does look like it's out of perspective. I mean, it's like a downscaled version of a much larger tree instead of a sapling, or she's standing on a cherry picker beneath the picture. You definitely fixed a lot of things in the After drawing, and I see you're deviating away from the Manga style for a more realistic one?

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Kon92-chan In reply to WhiteLilyDragon [2012-08-28 10:53:26 +0000 UTC]

That's probably because I took weeks to do the first one so I took more time on the details. I only took a couple of hours on the second one so I simplified some things, like the blossoms, that I probably would have kept the same in the new one. You're totally right about the scaling of the tree in the early one though. When I was redrawing it I looked at the tree and thought, what was I thinking back then to think that's actually what a tree that scale would look like? lol. As for my style, I still really like manga style but I've been finding that whenever I draw now, it works better if the faces are a bit more realistic.

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WhiteLilyDragon In reply to Kon92-chan [2012-08-28 17:18:21 +0000 UTC]

Only two hours on the After version? Wow, you've gotten really proficient at this. But yeah, all those little details are the real time-sink, I'm starting to learn that one myself the more backgrounds I make. ^^

Ah, so you noticed the tree too? xD And I like the direction you're going in with more realistic faces; the eyes are very natural and vivid, for one. :3 (Not all manga eyes are totally massive either, so it does make your art resemble the more serious styles out there.)

Also, have you tried submitting your art to #groups, or have you had any time to? It's a bit disheartening how few people are noticing your gallery; you have a lot of really nice traditional pieces in there. I'm sure deviants would enjoy seeing your art pop up in their watchlists. ^_^

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Kon92-chan In reply to WhiteLilyDragon [2012-08-29 09:55:23 +0000 UTC]

Agreed, I would definitely still classify most my work as manga.

I would like to start submitting my art to groups but I'm not really sure which ones. Do you have any suggestions for good groups?

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WhiteLilyDragon In reply to Kon92-chan [2012-08-29 11:27:31 +0000 UTC]

Even then, I still think the style you're going for is pretty unique. It looks much more anatomically correct, as opposed to exaggerating certain features. ^^

I've been watching quite a few Manga groups while I'm improving on my own manga skills. One of the easiest ways to find active groups for me is too look at favorite art pieces on the side of the deviation, for groups they're featured in; I've found a lot of nice groups that way. ^_^ Groups usually have tons of affiliates to check out as well.

These are a few nice groups I like to watch. Submission guidelines always vary between groups, so it helps to check out their rules.

<-- Has the highest standards I've seen in a Manga group so far, with over 2,000 watchers, but I doubt you would have any trouble becoming a member; you've got way more than five quality pieces in your gallery. ^^
<-- The new Founder here is great; she's doing her best to spruce the place up.
<-- This group might be a little picky if a submission is too realistic, but it has a lot of watchers and the art submitted is generally good.
<-- Over 12,000 Watchers, and most of the art I see in my watchlist from here is interesting. They accept intermediate art and above, and will give critiques on declined submissions if asked.
<-- Just recently checked out this group; they're a little more lenient than all the above and have over 3,000 watchers.

Sorry for the huge wall of text there. :# A few of these groups might be a good place to start; you may find others you like along the way as well. ^^

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Kon92-chan In reply to WhiteLilyDragon [2012-08-29 12:11:00 +0000 UTC]

Thank you so much for this information. (^_^) This has been really helpful and I'll definitely try to join some of these groups.

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WhiteLilyDragon In reply to Kon92-chan [2012-08-29 18:56:48 +0000 UTC]

You're welcome! ^^ I hope your gallery gets tons of exposure. :3

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Scarygothgirl [2012-08-26 08:51:13 +0000 UTC]

I think they're both amazing!
The first one feels more cartoon-like, whereas the second one feels more realistic - almost like you were drawing a cartoon of a real specific person.

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Kon92-chan In reply to Scarygothgirl [2012-08-26 09:01:51 +0000 UTC]

That's probably where I've changed the most style wise. I think my people have more relatable expressions now that I have change my style, before they looked frozen.

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RachelLambert [2012-08-24 11:23:52 +0000 UTC]

El de 2012 estΓ‘ precioso, pero me gustΓ³ mucho mΓ‘s el de 2010!
Igual estΓ‘n geniales!

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Aquara-Angel [2012-08-24 03:42:58 +0000 UTC]

Great improvement! The hand looks a little off in the 2nd one, but that hair... oh wow, I wish I could color like that.

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Kon92-chan In reply to Aquara-Angel [2012-08-24 08:22:48 +0000 UTC]

Thanks! Yeah, I'm not so good at drawing hands without references. I don't think either of them are quite right. Hah.

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Aquara-Angel In reply to Kon92-chan [2012-08-24 09:21:44 +0000 UTC]

References are my best friends, so I can understand. How long did it take you to learn how to shade hair like that?

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Kon92-chan In reply to Aquara-Angel [2012-08-24 11:55:38 +0000 UTC]

Quite a while to be honest. In early high school I would try to draw everyday with my main focus being females (ergo long hair). It probably took 4 years of really trying to improve before I got to the level of the earlier picture. My pencil colouring skills are pretty much the same as back then with the only real difference being improved colour choices to produce a more natural effect (especially with skin tones).

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zoedow1120 [2012-08-23 20:07:57 +0000 UTC]

i dont know which onr i llike better!

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Kon92-chan In reply to zoedow1120 [2012-08-24 12:13:49 +0000 UTC]

Which ever one you feel like.

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ArtByEdyn [2012-08-23 17:23:07 +0000 UTC]

I really like the way that you did the hair in the recent picture I can really see improvement with that. Anatomy wise the chin line is a lot better than the before. The girls arm that is wrapped around the tree is off. The forearm is way too long it would be reaching down past her knee if it was straight. I see what you were doing with it, but if you drew from a different perspective on that arm it would work well. The fingers should have some defined joints other wise it makes it look really flat. I hope this was helpful

Overall though I see great improvement, keep it up

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Kon92-chan In reply to ArtByEdyn [2012-08-24 12:12:21 +0000 UTC]

Thanks for your review it was of great help. (^_^) I followed your advice and tried to fix the arm. I think it looks right now. Anatomy has never been my strong point so I must admit, I thought something was weird with it but I didn't quite know what.

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ArtByEdyn In reply to Kon92-chan [2012-08-24 13:27:39 +0000 UTC]

No problems! It is the same with me, I am constantly asking my boyfriend what is off in my work XD Anatomy is hard, I still struggle with it! Keep it up though practice, practice, practice!

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ExplosiveSplatter [2012-08-23 16:33:58 +0000 UTC]

Love the hair

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Kon92-chan In reply to ExplosiveSplatter [2012-08-24 12:13:21 +0000 UTC]

Thanks. (^_^)

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ExplosiveSplatter In reply to Kon92-chan [2012-08-24 21:45:26 +0000 UTC]

Yw.

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D-E-A-R-E-S-T [2012-08-23 15:20:06 +0000 UTC]

Your style has always been really beautiful!

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Kon92-chan In reply to D-E-A-R-E-S-T [2012-08-23 15:25:43 +0000 UTC]

Thank you!

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fluffy-maple-vodka [2012-08-23 13:56:18 +0000 UTC]

Both are really lovely. Nice work

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Cheesy-Llama13 [2012-08-23 13:41:46 +0000 UTC]

Both of them are gorgeous

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Kon92-chan In reply to Cheesy-Llama13 [2012-08-23 13:47:37 +0000 UTC]

Awww. Thank you (^_^)

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Cheesy-Llama13 In reply to Kon92-chan [2012-08-23 19:16:45 +0000 UTC]

You're welcome! ^^

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Purrinee [2012-08-23 13:23:48 +0000 UTC]

both looks really amazing~!!!
But the first one is my favourite, I love anime style ^^

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Kon92-chan In reply to Purrinee [2012-08-23 13:27:24 +0000 UTC]

I did too back then as well. ^_^ I still like it but my own art style has moved away a little bit from pure anime. I was mainly pleased with the increase in my anatomy skills, they were pretty dodgy in the first one. ~_~

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