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GreenieEm In reply to RoulettesPlay [2014-02-28 03:35:04 +0000 UTC]

I think it was the point to make it all matchy-matchy.

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RoulettesPlay In reply to GreenieEm [2014-02-28 07:37:29 +0000 UTC]

You can make something have the same theme and elements without making them complete duplications. The armor is the same in almost every detail, down to the placement of the decorative gems. I just felt that more could have been done with this piece to really make it feel like Tryn was in his own skin, and not just raiding Ashe's closet.

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GreenieEm In reply to RoulettesPlay [2014-03-01 02:36:31 +0000 UTC]

It's different enough (chestplate, full pants, full purple over his shoulders) to be its own outfit, yet similar enough to be accurately spotted as matching to amethyst ashe. Besides irahi's point is to be matchy matchy, not to be super creative and make a whole brand new outfit. She did the same thing, except reverse on Demonbow Ashe : irahi.deviantart.com/art/demon…

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RoulettesPlay In reply to GreenieEm [2014-03-03 06:58:23 +0000 UTC]

I see your point, and it is valid in the case of the single shoulder without armor (that is one of his trademarks, afterall), but I will have to disagree with you on the other points (in my humble opinion). The full pants are simply extensions of the black leggings ashe is already wearing, the chestplate is an extension of her bra-like chest piece, simplified by 1 row of armor, and the gem located in the same spot were you to grab her brassiere and tug it up and flat. The only real different with that (other than the fact it covers more skin, and the removal of 1 row as I mentioned before) is that the scaling is reversed in it's arc. That is not to say there are not small items that are different, but as I (believe) I argued previously, it is changes to address a gender swap. (Crown instead of tiara, chest pieces instead of battle-bra, pants instead of leggings, etc). The only truly unique pieces I noticed where I feel the artist shined and executed their own creative license would be his sword, the removal of one shoulder guard (as you brought to my attention), and the crown (though it does still feel like a gender swap, but admittedly, not a straight swap; To choose to depict it that way was completely on the artist, and I applaud it.)

This next paragraph is only based off what I've seen from the other picture linked, so excuse some of my ignorance, I do not play tryndamere and am not familiar with is demon armor set (though I did look up a few screenshots and the splash art to make sure). Based on a glance, once more the artist has given themselves much more liberties with this piece to try and give ashe more of a unique identity. She has horns, her eyes bleeding downwards with ice blue and not the more harlequin style makeup tryn is sporting, the tiara (made of leather it would seem), giving her the signature hood (unnneccessary since she has skins without it) all the way to the frayed and colored cloak. Once more the artist has seized the opportunity and given us a unique weapon for ashe. Even her boots are not mirrors of tryn, but instead reference the style of them but made her own with the leg armor, the lack of ankle cover, and the leggings beneath. Her shoulder guard is bejeweled with what could be interpreted as demon eyes but still refers to the spikes of the original skin's design, and there seems to be an additional guard slightly hidden on the opposing arm. Infact, the only parts that -are- exact duplications (unlike the amethyst skin) is the skirt (shortened for the gender swap) the coils embracing her, the belt (from what I can see), and the wrapping of her left wrist/forearm.

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irahi In reply to RoulettesPlay [2014-03-03 14:09:36 +0000 UTC]

-sigh- Another argument that has turned into a penis length competition...

Let me start by asking you both to stop arguing on my deviation. Take this privately if you want to duke out who's right or wrong in an entirely opinion based argument.

These two picture sets are purposefully matchy matchy gender swap. If you have a problem with that, it's fine with me. Not everyone is going to like what I make, and, no offense, I honestly don't care if you don't like it. I'm not a professional nor am I trying to become one so everything I do is purely for my own happiness. Not everything has to be super creative, and I wasn't trying to be with these. If you want a bad ass creative version you are very much welcome to design it yourself.

I find it hilarious that you say that Demon Ashe has more creativity. If you look at it, it is her default skin's outfit modified slightly and recolored. Horns? On a demon? What is less creative than that old stereotype? (her crown is bronze btw to match the rings on Trynd's outfit) Outside of her face and weapon, there is little difference from her default look aside from the obvious influences of Tryndamere's skin like the frayed cloak, colors, etc. If you are going to say that her boots don't mirror Tryn's then you can't say that his gold chestplate mirrors hers as they are both similar to the original but not the same. 

IMHO, Amethyst Tryndamere has more creativity since I had to take a female design and make it fit a male frame without it looking too feminine. I also tamed his hair and beard. While you may not see the effort there, others do so please respect their opinions.

That said, your opinion of the image has been noted. Please refrain from continuing this discussion further in a public manner or I will hide the posts.

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irahi In reply to Liuv [2013-05-30 05:46:28 +0000 UTC]

Thanks! It would be so awesome if Riot made this. People could all gem teams and dazzle their way to victory.

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irahi In reply to DiscoPanda-TM [2012-10-30 19:38:22 +0000 UTC]

Thanks! I'm still surprised they chose mine out of all the great art out there

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