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Gedamo In reply to somk [2015-11-05 22:44:27 +0000 UTC]
Yes, I already received and posted. Thanks.
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ryuloulou [2015-11-05 10:37:15 +0000 UTC]
Dear Gendamo, the University just announced that they where stopping the use of the poster at least until an explanation from ideealizse.
Victory is bittersweet, but it's a first step in the right direction. Now I wish they would apologize to you.
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Gedamo In reply to ryuloulou [2015-11-05 13:30:51 +0000 UTC]
Yes it is, will see.
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Super-Furet In reply to Gedamo [2015-11-05 16:20:04 +0000 UTC]
They told me they sent you a message just after deleting the poster
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Gedamo In reply to Super-Furet [2015-11-05 22:45:05 +0000 UTC]
Yes I received e posted. thanks.
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Elseneur [2015-11-04 22:21:15 +0000 UTC]
Je m'adresse à vous en français, puisque vous êtes mes compatriotes.... COMMENT un établissement voué au savoir peut il ainsi DÉFENDRE une personne qui plagie ainsi de façon évidente, non pas UN mais une tripotée d'artistes ( vous n'imaginez pas combien d’œuvres originales ont été reconnues ?) ?
Mais bon, y a toujours une justice : votre réponse engage maintenant votre responsabilité. S'il y a procès un jour, vous devrez en répondre.
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Cptain-gigi In reply to Elseneur [2015-11-05 21:35:51 +0000 UTC]
La Sorbonne? J'ai toujours crut, a cause d'une prof qui a fait ses études là bas et qui adorait wikipedia, que c'était totalement admis.
blogs.mediapart.fr/blog/jean-n…
Really sorry for my english.
When I was student at university, a teacher who come from Sorbonne university, gave us lessons look like wikipedia article.
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Elseneur In reply to Cptain-gigi [2015-11-05 22:21:58 +0000 UTC]
Oui mais c'est Sorbonne nouvelle. Je ne sais pas si c'est très en rapport. ma fac, rue de Lourmel, en dépendait aussi, de Panthéon Sorbonne.
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Gedamo In reply to Elseneur [2015-11-05 04:45:04 +0000 UTC]
Pouvez-vous me dire, je ne comprends pas le français?
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Elseneur In reply to Gedamo [2015-11-05 07:52:58 +0000 UTC]
Thats a response fort the university, if they look at your wall. I'm not a very good english speaker. I said globally, that's a shame fort a university and thats their responsability is engaged, because now, they know ^^.
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GregoireMabire [2015-11-04 17:43:40 +0000 UTC]
That's ashamed !!!
Just this word to tell you i am supporting you Gedamo.
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Gedamo [2015-11-04 13:25:25 +0000 UTC]
Non so quanto riusciro' a stare dietro a questa vicenda,senza amareggiarmi ulteriormente,sopratutto vista la sfrontatezza dei mie interlocutori,e rispondendo a tutti.
Vi pregherei,per quanto lo apprezziil vostro caore,di limitare i commenti ovvi e denigratori verso questa persona,il cui cattivo operato e' davanti gli occhi di tutti,piuttosto di fornirmi,qualora ne aveste,contatti che possano aiutarmi a riappropriarmi di quanto rubatomi,in termini di prestigio e paternita' dell'opera,cosi come,eventaulmente ve ne sia, di denaro. Vi ringrazio caramente.
I don't know how much longer I can stand behind this story, without further been sadder, especially given the boldness of my interlocutors, and be able to responding at all.
Please, try to limiting obvious comments and hateful toward this person, whose wrong-doing it in front of everyone's eyes, rather to inform me, if you have contacts who can help me, to return what it's been stolen to me , in terms of prestige and fatherhood of the art, e eventually, of money. Thank you dearly.
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ryuloulou [2015-11-04 12:55:22 +0000 UTC]
don't feel down, art community is on your side. And the message went through, there's an uproar right now on facebook and twitter. A few artist started to tweet her directly to demand that she stop using her art. If you can, you should do the same with a an image of both works, side by side. Maybe even with the old one in the link theoldreader.com/profile/5141d… . to show that even if now it's slightly different she started with a direct paintover. Not taht anybody honnest would believe the contrary though.
Good luck, take care.
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Gedamo In reply to ryuloulou [2015-11-04 13:40:41 +0000 UTC]
I'm doing everything I can, and you too. Thanks to all.
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GINO1981 [2015-11-04 12:38:17 +0000 UTC]
I don't know, what makes me feel more angrier. The fact that SHE is a art thief or the arrogant answer of the University.
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ryuloulou In reply to GINO1981 [2015-11-05 00:52:03 +0000 UTC]
I think the organizers of the exhibitions are the worst because they actually could have made the right and respectfull choice while the "artist" is way too long gone in her ways. For her it's not personnal, you're just part of her free supermarket while thos girls went straight for any weakness they could think about.
both are inacceptable anyway.
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Gedamo In reply to ryuloulou [2015-11-05 04:49:52 +0000 UTC]
It requires careful and meticulous market strategy in the choice of victims, interesting .
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Trefle-Rouge [2015-11-04 11:57:42 +0000 UTC]
She's a shame for French artists. She stole my work too. Sorry to read this answer.
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Gedamo In reply to Trefle-Rouge [2015-11-04 12:50:25 +0000 UTC]
Yes, I saw,I'm sad too.
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Salayanara [2015-11-04 10:42:50 +0000 UTC]
Oh my... this answer really infuriates me. How dare can they state that since they make no money with that there's no problem. Those people really have a fucking problem.
I'm so sorry for you :/
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Gedamo In reply to Salayanara [2015-11-04 13:01:26 +0000 UTC]
I can't prove it yet,but I think She already make "some" money selling "her" image.
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Salayanara In reply to Gedamo [2015-11-04 14:34:59 +0000 UTC]
Very likely, yes :/
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somk [2015-11-04 10:40:54 +0000 UTC]
Relayed on their FB page. I especially hate this part of the letter "Besides, when the Sakura Gallery exhibited Lise Halluin's work on Goldrake", they had obtained the permission directly from Tôei to reappropriate the characters from the original animated series. Have you, by any chance, done the same?" WTF
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Gedamo In reply to somk [2015-11-04 12:56:48 +0000 UTC]
...credo che invece il punto saliente sia proprio questo,e cioe' che lei abbia ricevuto l'approvazione dei Giapponesi,che le hanno concesso di omaggiare Goldrake. Sarebbe opportuno che io facessi altretanto risalendo alle stesse fonti,magari denunciano la copia,e chiedendo di essere accreditato come artista ufficiale di Goldrake,piuttosto che solo FanArtist.
...I believe instead that the salient point is exactly this, she has received approval from the Japanese, who have accorded her the Honor to homage Grendizer. It would be appropriate for me to do the same, searching the same sources and references, reporting the copied, and asking to be accredited as official artist of Grendizer, rather than just Fanartist.
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somk In reply to Gedamo [2015-11-04 14:15:37 +0000 UTC]
To be honest, no one is really sure she has got any approval at all... but even if so...you have every right to be a fan artist. It is a legal grey zone. You don't sell, it's an hommage...It is on the other hand NOT LEGAL for her to take your fan art, play with it and SELL IT. This is illegal by any european legal system. We don't call it plagiarism in France because plagiarism is just taking someone else's work and trying to pass it as your own. It is "Contrefaçon", one step higher, because of the modifications on your work.
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Gedamo In reply to somk [2015-11-05 09:15:23 +0000 UTC]
Per quanto reprorevole poteva farlo se avesse venduto un originale realizzato a mano,cosi non e' invece per delle stampe,per lo piu' ottenute elaborando in maniera dozzinale immagini altrui.
I could understand,but not approve,if she sold an her original handmade; so isn't the same with prints, mostly' obtained by reworking with digital filters,images of Others.This is illegal.
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konekochijo In reply to Gedamo [2015-11-04 13:05:08 +0000 UTC]
Several of her so-called "authorisations" have been debunked (Marvel, for example). It would stand to reason that she might have lied about having Toei's permission.
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helmerfr [2015-11-04 10:33:16 +0000 UTC]
Sarah & Marie, Yes effectively, the present work from Lise is not exactly the same. She slightly rework the drawing of Gedamo. But she has indeed used the original drawing of Gedamo, and sold it for is first Goldorak, see here : theoldreader.com/profile/5141d… .
In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.
Gedamo, thank you for your work.
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Gedamo In reply to helmerfr [2015-11-04 13:10:19 +0000 UTC]
Thanks to you and all Others,for your support.
What 'makes me angry, being already' consulted with lawyer, and how hard it is to find a legal solution, a bit' also for the distance
betwen Italy e France and the different legal rules.
Certanly If she sold a PRINTS,and not paintings manually worked,she should be actionable e in a big Trouble,I hope so.
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helmerfr In reply to Gedamo [2015-11-04 13:18:46 +0000 UTC]
You're welcome Gedamo.
I doubt that it is difficult to assert their rights when the problem affects people internationally.
She is very lucky not to sell on a website in the US.
Even if your efforts do not succeed, keep the faith and continue to do what you do with pleasure.
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Gedamo In reply to helmerfr [2015-11-04 13:45:13 +0000 UTC]
Keep faith and continue,always .Thanks.
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Gedamo In reply to Super-Furet [2015-11-04 13:49:03 +0000 UTC]
Here in Italy I didn't find to sell the original for 300 euros, and she is making money with a copy, this is very sad...
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Timtimsia [2015-11-04 10:14:46 +0000 UTC]
Wow... such despise, what's wrong with the world seriously ?
In what universe is it okay to make money over the creations of others without even asking permission ?!
I'm stunned.
Even if there's no money at stake, I mean... what about intellectual property ? and integrity ?
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Gedamo In reply to Timtimsia [2015-11-04 13:11:28 +0000 UTC]
You're right.
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audreymolinatti [2015-11-04 10:10:40 +0000 UTC]
i am so sorry about this answer , she is an art theft ...
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audreymolinatti In reply to Gedamo [2015-11-04 15:07:15 +0000 UTC]
you know a friend of mine made a montage of your art and the ressemblance of ideaalize theft with yours i can send it yo you. a lot of artist on facebook are gathering info and proof that she is a fraud. people are with you don't let you impress by some fraud . sending you good vibes
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Tohad [2015-11-04 10:07:56 +0000 UTC]
I'm sorry to read that... Lise Halluin is an fucking art thief.
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Gedamo In reply to Tohad [2015-11-04 13:14:27 +0000 UTC]
The world is going completely crazy, I don't know what else to say.
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Niennnaaz [2015-11-04 09:53:46 +0000 UTC]
That's a shame !! She stole your work there isn't doubt about it !
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