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*Legacy Spoiler Alert*So as I was on my way to slay Corpheous in the DA2: Legacy DLC, Anders - and Justice - have this little cut scene where he (they?) berzerks a little. You have to fight him. After he summons 2 demons.
I was like, really? Mr. Blood-Magic-is-Bad-RAWR and Don't-Talk-to-the-Sloth-Demon-or-You-Face-Me just summoned demons on me? Well. Isn't that just special. Don't get me wrong, I
Anders to pieces. But after that, I don't see how he (they) have ANY room to give Merrill crap.Dragon Age and all characters from it belong to Bioware.
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He was being controlled by a tevinter magister/awakened darkspawn.
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Strangely enough, I always thought that it was Corypheus, and not Janders, summoning these demons.
Isn't Corypheus trying to suppress both of their will (Anders and Justice) in order to gain possession of Anders' body?
The fact that Janders started using spells that he didn't know or have (like that rock armor thing, that Corypheus uses a lot in the final battle) kind of supports that theory. I think.
And before going berserk, Janders says "I will not be controlled!" Suggesting that he no longer controls his actions.
So really, I think it's Corypheus' control over Anders you are fighting. Not Janders himself.
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He does say he will not be controlled, but there is nothing to suggest possession. It's stated that he speaks through the taint, like an archdemon, thus influencing other tainted beings. I have not seen him use any spells on my play throughs that he didn't know. I am inclined to agree that without the 'influence' of Corpheus, he wouldn't have fought Hawke, but you would still think that between the 2 of them, they could've resisted Corpheus's call.
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In my playthrough of Legacy, when Anders lost control and began attacking Hawke, he immediately wore some sort of rock armor + used shades to fight.
And, in the fight against Corypheus, the magister also wore some kind of rock armor (with the companions commenting on it) + used shades to fight.
Both combats mirrored each other that way.
So, it didn't seem like Anders was just being influenced to fight Hawke, using only the powers he already had/knew. But like Corypheus was controlling his mind/behavior, and allowing him to use powers and abilities that weren't normally his own.
He does say that he'll try to hold against him (adding "against them both"). I really thought that it meant that Corypheus had the strenght to take over Anders mind (like Justice could), and use his body to channel his own powers (calling forth shades, and such).
Of course this is only a theory (unless someone knows if one of the writers said anything about that). But it's the only theory I've found to explain why Jander suddenly fought with the same powers that Corypheus later used.
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You mean sort of like a marionette.
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Basically. Anders keeps repeating afterwards "I fear what this emissary can push me to do" (each time you click on him).
So yes, a marionette or a tele-op would be a fair example. Corypheus is not actively entering Anders' body, but their connection through the taint allows him to control Anders from a distance.
Being a mage, Anders probably has what it takes to be able to summon shades, and use mostly any type of spells even though he has never been trained to use them. So, as long as Corypheus is issuing the commands, Anders body/mind can do it.
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Well it does indeed make sense, I mean since Anders is not only a mage and a Grey Warden, but also a host to a spirit, it probably makes him more suseptable to Corypheus' manipulations. My theory is that if Anders never allowed Justice into him then he would probably be more likely to resist the control of the particualy insane 'Darkspawn Magister', as I've come to call Corypheus.
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