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Photomanipulation Week



I would like to welcome Pierre-Alain, as 3mmIa french digital artist and graphic designer based in Nantes, France. He is a long term member of the photo-manipulation community of deviantArt with a fine taste for the dark and the oneiric. For our Project Educate Photomanipulation Week this year he agreed to answer a couple of questions for us. 

It's a great pleasure for me to do this interview with him!



Hello Pierre-Alain, thank you for taking the time for this interview. With nine years of activity you are a long-term member of the photo-manipulation community on deviantart. Did your career start right here nine years ago, or did your journey through digital art begin even earlier?
   

First, thank you Erik for your questions. To answer you, the first years were for me mainly about practicing, learning, trying, and of course, exploring, discovering. I'm 100% self-educated in art, so I had to learn all by myself, and it took a long time. I think I managed to hit a "correct" level only a few years ago... but I think I still have to learn, it's an endless journey.



"L'Explorateur "


We all do! Being an expert at combining photos with textures, has photo-manipulation always been your main passion, or did you ever give other art genres a try?

I have always been interested in some various kind of art, mainly music (I'm also a bit musician), but also photography or sculpture, but the need of practicing by myself only came with photo and photomanipulation and, I must say, the advent of new technologies and softwares that, to me, opened the world of creation. As for many people, I guess, I started by taking my own pictures, and tried to manipulate them to make them look better. Finally, I liked this so much and saw so many artistic possibilities that I never stopped. Maybe one day I'll give a try to some other disciplines, I already make a lot of photos even if I don't publish a lot of them. Here too, I still have a lot to learn! I would really like to try sculpture, but it's really another world.



You should share the original photos more often! We also get a better idea how much work and vision goes into your artworks. What is your favorite time-killer besides art? Seeing the huge list of bands in your profile I'd say it's probably music? Did you ever play in a band yourself?

You're totally right. Music is something that takes a huge part in my life. I just can't live without it. It's literally a drug for me. I play guitar since something like 15 years I think, it's also a real passion, even if my level is not phenomenal ahah. I like to improvise or just play the killer riffs I listen to, also to find the perfect sound. About that, -not sure if it will interest anyone ahah, but- I think I learned a lot by listening to Andreas Kisser from Sepultura or Dimebag Darrell from Pantera (RIP). Now my main "guitaristic" references would maybe be Adam Jones from Tool or Mikael Åkerfeldt from Opeth... man, those guys are real gods for me.

Yes, I played in a band a long time ago, but it was much investment and I was not really good at that time, so I mainly continued to play electric guitar as a personal hobby, and that's what I still do. I always have my guitar next to my computer. Very often, when working on a graphic project, I leave my graphic tablet to take my guitar and play a few riffs, just to feel good. I think I would never have started photomanipulation without music, and more precisely, metal music. It's really my most important source of inspiration. Even if I listen to a lot of various kind of music, and even if I cut my hair, from deep within me, I'm a metalhead before all ahah. Since my debut in photomanipulation, my wish has always been to make images in connection with the metal world, to illustrate the music I like. So, now, I feel honored each time a band asks for my art to illustrate their music, really.



"Eternal Return"


I totally understand. It's a great feeling to hold a CD in your hands with your very own cover, even more so if you love the band's music. Back to your artworks, your work with grayscale is amazing. I am thinking of „Attrition“, „Taste of Insanity“ or your latest submission „Protection“. I am sure the readers are dying to hear any tips on how to make black and white so appealing. Can you share a secret with us?

Thank you for liking those pieces, Erik. A secret? Well, not sure to have one, it's more about perseverance and work, I guess. About "Protection", this is an artwork I started long time ago, the idea was about to make a portrait with some natural elements, but I didn't manage to finish it so I did what I always do in that case: I left it in a folder, to come back to it again later, with maybe more ideas, with a fresh eye. So I just reopened it recently, and this time, with new ideas. The only thing I could say, would maybe be that, when you work in black and white, you have to pay very special attention to all the lights. Light is always important of course, but in B&W, it is even more important, you have to focus on it all the time. A second "secret", if I can call this like that, would be the patience. Yes, patience. Inspiration is not a 100% full time skill, so sometimes the best thing to do when you're working on a image and when you feel blocked or slowed, well, just stop, work on something else, do something else, go outside, and you'll come to it later with a fresh eye and new ideas. It can be a day or several weeks. I almost always worked in that way. Art has not to be rushed, and patience is a valuable asset in all circumstances. So you see, no real secrets, just perseverance, I suppose.



"Protection"


Thanks for sharing your work philosophy with us. Most of your work is dark and eerie, thematically and stylistically. What inspires you to such themes? Do you draw inspiration also from other artists? If yes, can you name any?

As I said previously, music is my main inspiration. Good music inspires countless different worlds, universes, stories, feelings, places... But of course, I was also influenced by many amazing artists around the world. Some of my favorites would maybe be Travis Smith, Alex Grey, Seth Siro Anton, Dennis Sibeijn (damnengine ), Marcela Bolivar (MarcelaBolivar), Pierre Doucin (www.soemone.com), Daniel Valencia (Fenomeno), and so many more... In terms of music, Opeth and Tool are probably the musics that inspire me the most. Talking about Tool, I'm still waiting for their next release... almost 10 years we're waiting for it, this is a torture, ahah.



Haha, some bands do take their time. Will we ever get to hear Wintersun's "Time II"? Anyways, we can find a plethora of awesome CD cover artworks in your gallery for various bands. We know now that you're a selftaught artist, so how long have you been doing commissioned work?

Thank you. As I said, I'm a 100% self-educated artist, and nothing was easy. My background isn't artistic at all, I spent some years in the french Air Forces, I was also a network and a computer specialist. But a period of my life came and suggested me to make a radical change in the way I wanted to spend my life. So, it took a long time of work and perseverance before being able to work on some commissioned projects. I had to learn and practice a lot before going further than just "cool little manip" as a personal hobby. In the beginning, I didn't think that I would be able, one day, to see some of my personal images as CD covers, but well, after all that time, it looks that my perseverance has resulted to something, and I'm now very proud each time I can work for the metal music industry.



"Grades of Inhumanity" for Solium Fatalis


What is it like for you to work with clients? Do you have a funny or unnerving story to share? I am thinking of extravagant or simply weird requests for example.

Well, each client is very different, it's each time a new story. Excepted for confirmed band, most of them are not always aware about what is working on a graphical project. So of course sometimes I have to explain what is possible and what is not possible. Personally, I really need a great part of freedom in my art, so, even if the client has a very precise idea of what he wants, I sometimes have to explain that I'm not a machine, and if I don't have that very important part of liberty in my choices, the work won't be as good as it could be. So, working with me is, I think, a simple exchange of views and confidence. Of course, I sometimes get strange requests but when it's too weird, I prefere to say "sorry man, I don't feel it, I can't do this". It's really important for me to feel the ideas/concepts, I don't want to make something I don't agree with. But, I must say, except few ones who can sometimes consider you as a machine, most of my clients are very cool and easy to work with. Some of them became great friends.



Do you do other client work besides CD covers? Would you say it is possible to make a living from cover art alone? I have heard before it can be pretty difficult.

I don't think you can live by only making CD covers, you have to do more. Personally, I don't only make CD covers, but also all the CD graphic parts of an album and often, all the merchandising part of a band's project. Tshirts, logos, banners, website elements, etc... Sometimes I work for some different kinds of projects such as event poster, brochures or more "corporate" stuffs for littles structures or individuals. I think that's what you have to do if you want to live with your "art". Actually, I like to work on any kind of project, to have challenges and opportunity to adapt myself to a total new context. But let's be clear, living as a graphic designer or illustrator is not easy at all. Often, people don't realize the time and efforts it takes to make a good image. Some of them think that making an image is just a funny hobby, well, it's not just this, it's also a real work that needs many sacrifices when you invest yourself totally in it (and that's my case), and so, that needs to be rewarded and properly paid. Graphic designers have a life, family and bills, just like everyone. I am often really hallucinated and disappointed when I see that some artists completely devalue their work, or to see that some clients have sometimes really disrespectful budget. Seriously, sometimes, you have some people that offer you 50$ for an image on which you have spent 3 weeks or more! This is not correct and it's sad that sometimes, we have to explain all of this. I'm sure you will understand what I mean. Graphic design is a passion, but also a real work that need, as I said, many sacrifices, years of expertise and experience. Graphic designers are passionated people, that's not a reason to exploit them. Unfortunately, nowadays, various companies, voluntarily or not, exploit tons of young graphic designers... I think about some magazines, but not only...



"Origins"


I totally agree! I guess a lot of selftaught artists who are working with clients for the first time are often inexperienced and don't know what their art is worth. Thank you for sharing your views on that matter, I think it is great advice for everyone. Now, these last two questions I have are probably the most difficult to answer. If you could pick one single artwork that presents your gallery, which one would it be and why?

Ah... not easy indeed. I think my art have several facets so, it's hard to pick just one ! Maybe "Attrition" would be something representative. It's dark, a bit creepy, with a lot of weird details. What do you think?



"Attrition"


Good choice I would say! Like I said, I'm a big fan of your work with grayscale. Now you can highlight one other deviant- who do you choose and why?

Well, there are a lot of deviants I could talk about. But again, I think I would choose the art of MarcelaBolivar. Discovering her art was really a slap for me, in a good way. Something very unique and enchanting. Someone that pushes the technical boundaries further without neglecting feeling and emotions. She's an example and deserves a lot of respect. For good, one of my all time favorite artist.



"Sulfur III" by MarcelaBolivar


I agree, she is an exceptional artist and has inspired me for a long time! Thanks a lot for this great interview. Best of luck with your further art career and your sculptures. I hope we'll hear a lot more from you in the future!

Thanks for your time and your questions.



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Comments: 29

TragicSaga [2016-01-10 02:46:58 +0000 UTC]

The artistic talent is mindblowing...Love his work.

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Iskander1989 [2015-06-01 15:48:03 +0000 UTC]

That was really interest to know more about him, he was one of my first inspirations here on DA. 

About the thing of being devalued, i really know how it is, i'm not a photomanipulator for a long time, i think i just tried to make something different when i started using Worth1000, then i decided to make things by my own ideas, so i came for DA. But i have not much artistic commissions, i've made LOT of things for Game teams (like teams of Dota 2 and LoL), and i know how things can be terrible when you're dealing with people that don't know how you struggle to make a good work.

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ErikShoemaker In reply to Iskander1989 [2015-06-01 16:03:36 +0000 UTC]

You are right!
A while ago I've seen someone offering full-photomanip commissions on dA for 15 Euros. That's ridiculous in my opinion! That artist was no beginner, so the clients would even get good quality work their money. 
The thing is that this artist does not only devalue his own work, but also the work of every other photomanipulator. Why pay more if you can have the same for 15 Euros? I have friends who regularly charge a thousand euros per commissioned piece. I can understand that for hobbyists and beginners this sounds extreme. A news article series by real professionals would be great in my opinion to help educate the beginners who don't know the first thing about commissions (as in what is reasonable to charge, or setting up the contract etc).

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Iskander1989 In reply to ErikShoemaker [2015-06-01 18:05:43 +0000 UTC]

Yup... There are some things that would be really helpful for the comunity, one of those is exactly what you've mentioned in this comment.

Other thing that sometimes can let people confused is about tools and hardware, sometimes, mainly beginners think that having a high-end PC or the best tablet wouls inflict directly in the work quality, i'm sure you can use these details (if you have a commercial place, licenses, internet bills, if you spent money in some better equipments and other stuff) you need to insert a percentage of these costs in your budget, but it don't mean that yur work is better than an artist that have a modest configs.

O was suposed to write something about it, but i really had not time. It is perhaps worth to make it now, even  the PM Week has finished...,

By the way, 15 Euros is really disrespectful.

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ErikShoemaker In reply to Iskander1989 [2015-06-01 18:33:40 +0000 UTC]

oh I agree! There seems to be the notion that one needs Photoshop CS6 or CC to be able to create decent images, when in fact they only have a few nice extra features which you don't really need for learning the basics. I have been working with CS2 myself for a long time. Today I'm still not up to date, using CS5 now. I always survived without the newest versions. ^^
A tablet can be useful actually, but also here one can get nice results even with the cheap option like a wacom bamboo or something.

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Iskander1989 In reply to ErikShoemaker [2015-06-01 19:13:05 +0000 UTC]

Yup... i mean that you don't need a Cintiq to make a nice work, hehehe.

I'm using CC, but i really don't think it changes too much from cs6 and cs5...

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MLeth [2015-05-31 17:01:35 +0000 UTC]

Very cool interview!

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ErikShoemaker In reply to MLeth [2015-06-01 16:03:43 +0000 UTC]

glad you liked it!

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adorell [2015-05-30 18:20:42 +0000 UTC]

Thanks for tat interview!

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ErikShoemaker In reply to adorell [2015-06-01 16:03:53 +0000 UTC]

well you're welcome! 

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MarcelaBolivar [2015-05-30 15:34:39 +0000 UTC]

Pierre-alain is nothing short of amazing! Always loved his vision.

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ErikShoemaker In reply to MarcelaBolivar [2015-06-01 16:05:01 +0000 UTC]

I agree, I love his texture work

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Rowye [2015-05-30 15:15:52 +0000 UTC]

Thanks a lot for this interview, wish there was more of these here on DA. Big cheers to Project Educate, keep up the good work!

Edited grammar

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ErikShoemaker In reply to Rowye [2015-06-01 16:04:35 +0000 UTC]

glad you liked the interview! We spend some time making the questions and answers less generic

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Rowye In reply to ErikShoemaker [2015-06-03 18:38:01 +0000 UTC]

Yep, it was great, I really dig reading from other artists, not only I learn from their (your) experience but also makes them more (not sure about the word) personable or "closer".
Also I have only so much time to browse the web, so getting this in the same DA makes it all the better for me.

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ErikShoemaker In reply to Rowye [2015-07-04 08:11:49 +0000 UTC]

Oh I agree! I've noticed that I seem to care more about someone's art if I followed their progression and if I know some details from their personal life, like what they're doing for a living or if we have common interests... on the other hand, I have a hard time connecting people with their art if the artists are "silent" all the time.

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Rowye In reply to ErikShoemaker [2015-07-07 17:50:55 +0000 UTC]

It does sure make a difference. Just like when you're young and your friends have a band, you might not be so much into their music style per se, but you sincerely love it because they're your friends and you can see through the music much better than if it's some band you don't know. I used to be the one in "the band" for some of my friends, but then I had many other friends in bands too.

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ShyDragoness [2015-05-30 13:08:40 +0000 UTC]

Wow Awesome

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ErikShoemaker In reply to ShyDragoness [2015-05-30 13:25:11 +0000 UTC]

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Lintu47 [2015-05-30 08:29:12 +0000 UTC]

Great interview

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ErikShoemaker In reply to Lintu47 [2015-05-30 09:40:24 +0000 UTC]

glad you like it!

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AbbeyMarie [2015-05-30 07:49:37 +0000 UTC]

Everyone always says Marcela!

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ErikShoemaker In reply to AbbeyMarie [2015-05-30 09:40:12 +0000 UTC]

If you had interviewed me I would have said the same thing.

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Senex1003 [2015-05-29 22:25:05 +0000 UTC]

I agree with you RohMah1 100%! I rarely share media of any sort with my internet friends but this was one of those times I was inspired to share a link with 400+ people.

Incredible artist, Sir 3mmi is, imho. I thought the questions & answers were thoughtful and sincerely genuine on both sides. Being self taught in all aspects, and restrained to having hobby hours except for four years I can completely relate. And it is people such as, Pierre-Alain that have always kept me striving to become better. Thank you for sharing and inspiring +respect

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ErikShoemaker In reply to Senex1003 [2015-05-30 09:39:36 +0000 UTC]

Thanks for the kind words and spreading the word about this interview, I really appreciate it! We spend a lot of time to set it apart from other interviews and make the topics less generic. I'm glad you like it!

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RohMah1 [2015-05-29 20:31:01 +0000 UTC]

One of the best interviews I've read! I've been a huge fan of his work ever since I discovered him. Kudos to a very inspiring artist.

Great questions, great answers. Loved reading this interview.  

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ErikShoemaker In reply to RohMah1 [2015-05-29 20:43:56 +0000 UTC]

really glad you like it! It was fun doing the interview because I'm a fan of his work myself

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VHannibal In reply to ErikShoemaker [2015-05-30 12:39:43 +0000 UTC]

He is a really great artist , but yours are also great! Gratz to both of you!

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ErikShoemaker In reply to VHannibal [2015-06-01 16:07:31 +0000 UTC]

thanks for the compliment!

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