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DanneArt — The Tyrant King (Updated)
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Published: 2019-03-10 16:32:55 +0000 UTC; Views: 14822; Favourites: 461; Downloads: 63
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I just felt obligated to do a new T.rex with how so much new data and theories has surfaced since I last did one.I decided to tone down the feathering since "new" skin-impressions suggests so as well as a theory of animals loosing any benefits of having thick insulation/plumage at larger sizes (aprox. ~3 t. and above.)
I gave it lips since...well the theory of lipless-ness a.k.a croc-faces in theropods such as Tyrannosaurs is so full of flaws and is kinda stupid. However I added a keratinous ridge/snout to it as that seems somewhat likely.
The skinny arms are based on the data suggesting they had relatively small muscle-mass since their arms were pretty much held close to their bodies and not used that much at all (at least not doing any heavy work).
The rest is basically a mix of bird and reptile.
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Cool!
I love its black color, the detail of the feet, the accuracies and the comparison whit a man
I just think the tail was made a bit short and the scales on the head don't quite convince me altogether, but those isn't big problem.
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Thanks!
Im pretty sure its the right lenght but yeah, in retrospect I would have done em differently.
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I meant my top 5 favorite T.Rex Drawings now.
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This and Saurian's Rex Redesign rekindled my love for scaly Rex. I actually like this more than the Saurian version
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Splendid Work! (It amuses me to see the contrast between this admirably chill Tyrant and the poor fellow FREAKING OUT right in front of it - "Don't worry, human, I'm not going to eat you now" "Oh, Thank-" "I MIGHT eat you later though!").
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Hehe yeah, kinda had the "toilet scene" from JP in mind
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I imagine that every scene where a Tyrannosaur gets THAT close turns into a toilet scene, bathroom or no bathroom!
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I'm not hating but that pouch looks like a tumor and a raspberry. Also idk why but I find this design A LOT better than Saurians.
#blackrex
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Well I used cassowarys as reference lol. I can't agree with you but I'm flattered!
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Probably because Saurian is always overused in Tyrannosaurus reconstruction ever since their involvement on redoing their rex. Also their "most accurate dinosaur game on the market!" branding also adds on, which makes people think it THE most accurate you'll ever get with rex, yet they said that with their last rex and it had problems to begin with(not the notion of "feathered tyrannosaurs" but the extension of said covering)...
I think if they just stop doing the "most accurate" moto then they wouldn't look so entitled on any of the reconstructions(but some are still indeed wrong or at least questionable). They set theirselves up for heavy critique from all corners of the paleo circle from it anyways imo...
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AND they actually might complete the game while it's as accurate as possible, either way, I 100.5% agree with you.
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Well, completion of the game is a highly debatable question, since it's been in EA since Kickstarter launch back in Q3 2016. I unfortunately see it as the same fate as The Isle, being stuck in this stage for as long as they can. The only indie dinosaur games they don't show this in my eyes is Prehistoric Kingdom and maybe a couple others, but mostly due to the former having a well-lengthy monthly devlog which tons of progress made and active developer feedback and milestones in game processed completion and finalized assets like animations, textures, soundtrack, etc.
Maybe it's just me, but I feel Saurian & The Isle are staying in this stage for so long in order to stay in Steam's EA benefits, which for full completed games don't end up selling with thereafter in light of this. I know that's likely not what the devs are thinking, but from the very slow progress shown afaik, it feels as if it were the case.
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Especially since there is a lot of shit both games want to update and add within each feature itself.
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That, and the fact the ingame mechanics are far from polished or even fully agreed upon a fan-based consensus....
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Good morning friend, whoa, soooooo awesome!!!!!!.
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Great piece. Really gets the size and power of the animal down to a I and I love the avian features on the neck.
However, I really do not understand this new "large tyrannosaurus were completely featherless/only had little filaments on top," paleomeme. Sure, the current fossil evidence shows they were likely majority-skin at least as adults, but coming from such a heavily-feathered ancestral group and having relatives like Dilong and Yutyrannus it... just doesn't make any sense why they would just lose it all. Feathers are for more than insulation; where are the hypothetical display frills, manes, wing fans, etc.? It feels like a lot of people on DA are just copying the Saurian design. :/
Also was wondering, do we have any description as to what the Tarbosaur dewlap was like or is everyone just drawing it off speculation? Thanks.
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Like commanderblush said there are far more ways to attract a mate than just having pretty display integument on your body somewhere , other dinosaurs and even modern animals tell us that much.
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It’s not really a “paleomeme” simply because you have trouble getting a grasp on it. Its simply a more up to date approach on the animal based on the data we have. It’s ancestors were indeed feathered but they’re also a really basal group and separated from the most derived tyrannosaurids by tens of millions of years. That’s a lot of time for things to happen and change, even the largest known form : yutyrannus is separated from T.rex by more than 50 million years. A trait being basal to one group doesn’t preclude the possibility of it being lost/reduced in its derived members. It’s not an unreasonable thing for feathers to be lost in ancestrally filamented reptiles at all as many dinosaur lineages are secondarily featherless, it just requires a core understanding of how scales/feathers function. A Good method to understand to integuments is : all animals have skin, and bare skin is always a possibility in areas. There are 3 basic types of skin coverings which stem from follicles: hair, feathers, and scales. If a follicle produces one thing, it cannot produce another. If it produces a scale, it cannot produce a feather, and vise versa. You can have mixes, like feathers growing between scales, but then you would find feather follicles in between the scale impressions. avian scales (which is analogous to what tyrannosauridae have) are essentially feathers, but their embriological development "stunts" their formation resulting in "scales". It’s not about people “copying” saurians design it’s about aligning their work with what current evidence indicates for the animal. Dinosaur scales/feathers aren’t really the same as mammalian skin/hair in how they become reduced at least not entirely so while even the largest mammals have the tiniest bit of hair on their bodies despite their distance from more haired ancestors in non avian dinosaurs feathers can be opted out by genes selecting for them to sprout up or be stunted (see domestic pigeons with scaled/feathered feet via breeding).
With the data we have it essentially indicates to us that while primitive tyrannosauroids (proceratosaurids specifically) possessed filamentous integument across their bodies somewhere along the line their descendents (the Tyrannosaurines/Albertosaurines) selected against such covering in exchange for reticulate non overlapping scales instead. Such a thing is not unprecedented in any regard given other clades within dinosauria appear to have followed a similar pattern. As for “frills , manes and wing fans” that’s pretty much all speculative naturally and would take the presupposition that the feathers of tyrannosaurids were gradually growing more and more complex the same way Maniraptorans were which theres no support for, not that one can’t do it in artwork if they so choose but....yeah. Again feathers can be multi purpose but in many groups they weren’t inherently for display but more so for thermoregulatory functions, at least in basal tyrannosaurs.
Implying that filaments can’t be lost entirely or that it doesn’t make sense for them to be lost in a dinosaur group Kindve downplays how dynamic dinosaur integument is on a broad scale, it’d be like saying Chasmosaurines and centrosaurines should have quills on their flanks just because psittacosaurus has them and then pointing to rhinos/elephants for justification. With rex it’s predominantly just about parsimony as to why you see more and more reconstructions following the trend of Tyrannosaurus either having no feathers whatsoever or them being sparse/limited to the neck/back region.
I’d advise looking at things like this to give one an idea on what the new discoveries implicate to us , I might offer insight into the general trend we’re seeing in paleoart right now , it’s by no means just a random paleomeme that everyone hops on board with without knowing the details behind it :
markwitton-com.blogspot.com/20…
reptilis.net/2017/06/19/the-re…
sauriangame.squarespace.com/bl…
royalsocietypublishing.org/doi…
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Key word being "majority," here. As extensive as the fossils are, they still do not cover anything close to the entire body and leave many gaps for interpretation. I'm not saying the scaly model is "bad," I'm just saying its not the only interpretation here.
I'm not denying it could have had skin flaps or things like that, the T.bataar fossils show dewlaps after all. But animals can have both feather and skin display structures and they tend to compliment each other.
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>It feels like a lot of people on DA are just copying the Saurian design. :/
If only it wasn’t the most up to date model of T. Rex ever.
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It's up to date, but also ridiculously conservative in my opinion; it is extrapolating an entire body covering from something, while very extensive, is extremely fragmentary. It could have weird skin-flaps, fat deposits, wattles, ridges, quills, scale-scutes etc.
I'm not against all-scaly designs nor do I "dislike," the current game model (I do think it's a little skinny in places). I just wish people would take other angles with the new data, there can more than one interpretation to it.
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there’s nothing wrong with being conservative on a dinosaur reconstruction that’s just called creating a model based on the information we have on the creature. Skin impressions aren’t the same as bones , so calling it “fragmentary” gives off the wrong Connotation to me though I guess it’s not a big deal. Parsimony is a thing and the fact that we have skin impressions from multiple portions of the body on both Trex and it’s closest relatives gives us an insight into their anatomy. Sure the animal could’ve had tiny sparse filaments growing between the scales on its head but current evidence doesn’t really suggest that to us which is predominantly what they were focused on. As for it being too skinny well that’s mostly up to perspective given that the muscular is for the most part correct across the animals frame.
I’m not sure how one considers a rex with no “flaps , wattles, fat deposits ,quills and scale scutes” , “ridiculously conservative” we have absolutely no support for such speculative structures and just the fact that it’s a “possibility” doesn’t mean one must add them in order to not be too bland. I should also point the rex does have Scutella on its feet , does have a nose ridge and boasts keratin protrusions/patches on its head. I know this was primarily an artistic opinion on your part but I just don’t see the need to bash over a design that doesn’t include features you’d personally like to see (at least in regards to saurians model) the only thing they really were “too conservative” on is the keratin placement on the basal region and head/lacrimals since it doesn’t quite match up to the osteological correlates we have for the growth of it on the animals skull.
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I tried not to copy Saurian as much as I could but yeah, it IS the most accurate as of now so if your going for accuracy its bound to be similiar. When it comes to feathers I'm with you. I'm still not convinced it was *completely* featherless however I went down a bit more conservative/safe path with this.
It is not published as of now so this is just speculative.
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This T. rex looks really good. Maybe I'm mistaken, but I see that it still has some traces of filaments/feathers (the light brown colored spots) in certain areas.
And the wattle is based on the yet-to-be-published Tarbosaurus find, right?
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Yep, still not convinced it was *completely* featherless. Yes that's correct.
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Neither am I. While the most recent findings point to it having been primarily scaly in appearance, I too have my doubts that it would have completely lost filaments during its life, especially taking its heritage into account.
At the very least, it could have possessed some traces of filaments over its back and maybe other areas where they are known to found in some of its cousins, as was suggested in the original paper published on the Wyrex specimen a year or two back.
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Yes, hence my choice of sparse thin filaments on its back, tail, cheeks and arms
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And thus once again, job well done. Think I'll definitely be putting this on my "Tyrannosauroidea" folder. Definitely deserves a spot in my opinion.
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