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[2009-01-19 14:36:14 +0000 UTC]
"daniel"
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huge thanks for the 
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That's alright I really liked your dark os mockups. what icon packs did you use? how would you feel about making more mockups for embedded or even for dark os, i'm pretty sure that there is more things that could be done like an media/music player, filemanager, dialogues, etc, i'm not an artist by a long shot but I would like to help out if I can, I would love to see a desktop like that realised, even if it's just a fork of gnome or enlightenment
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The icons I used were my own creations. I'm definitely considering making more mockups, but I don't really have the skill to make them into a functioning style.
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how do you mean? programming wise or artistically?
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Haha I mean in terms of programming.
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is there a desktop that you would like to use, gnome, kde, enlightenment, compiz-fusion, icewm, blackbox, equinox, fox etc?
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Haha nothing really comes to mind, but I like Ubuntu!
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Thanks for the favs.
May I suggest a kFreeBSD base instead of GNU/Linux?
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how do you mean, I've tried freeBSD, but that's about it, i've never tried to look at the guts,
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kFreeBSD uses the FreeBSD kernel in Debian. It provides a GNU tool land instead of the FreeBSD distribution.
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So are you saying that would be better than using linux, I mean I am looking for a system that can be used on embedded systems as well, which is why I was also giving some serious thought to minix, i really thought Linux would be fine because I would have the support and documentation from the LFS people, but at the same time there are so many different linux distro's that they tend to just cross-propegate, So I looked at knoppix, morphix, ubuntu, minix, open darwin, gnome hildon, embedded ubuntu, etc.
And I decided to just stick with Linux, it was just a thoughtless desicion to save me time and effort, in building my system
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Microbsd can be used for embedded systems as well. It comes with a standard FreeBSD install.
FreeBSD is developed by the same group, and there isn't a lot of distros out there other than OpenBSD, NetBSD, and PC-BSD as well as a few others.
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I was thinking of using minix for the embedded system. completely modified of course.
Listen, do you know any programming?
If so, could I bounce a few ideas off of you?
If not, could I still bounce a few ideas off of you?
because you're right, it probably would be better to use bsd, could I do this?
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I know C programming and Perl, so shoot. You can chat with me on AIM, MSN and Yahoo. They're al on my user page.
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are you affiliated with the currently existing redhat-based taolinux?
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No my TaoLinux is ubuntu based, I actually looked up TaoLinux on the internet [link] and found that it doesn't actually exist anymore as I haven't been able to find a single download page for it. if you check out that site you'll find different programs for linux but no TaoLinux, redhat based or otherwise.
As for details about my TaoLinux, it's basically built from the bottom up as a debian-based distro, using E17 as it's desktop, but with a few changes and with more a more multimedia, gaming based flavour.
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wow. a gaming distro, eh? im hoping youve integrated wine, no way to be a gamer distro without it! e17 is nice but hard to customize from what i have heard. how many people are on this project? Are you a programmer?
Would you consider partnering with my project? i'm in desperate need of programmers. We're so behind schedule, and i need people to work on the gtk, metacity, and emerald. plus i can share my knowledge with you!
by the way, be careful about using other people's icons. not everything is open source.
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no, I don't mind partnering with your project, it's as easy to make 2 distro's from the same base as it is to make 1, have you given any thought to what you're going to base your distro on, either redhat, debian, slackware, or others?
are you using gnome, theres a lot of stuff on the gnome desktop, which is why I chose to use e17, besides, it looks better than the others, like icewm, or xfcwm, the usual lighter ones. And enlightenment has got a huge user and developer base, not as much as gnome or kde, but just as helpfull with customisation, etc.
I don't know anything about emerald, and with gtk, and metacity, I've never tried as I'm not a very good artist so I couldn't get the things that I wanted onto the screen, but I can program in C, mainly because I like the language.
But what do you need done in gtk, or in metacity, is it just themes that your after or whole gui's because for guis you'd actually be better off using glade. Glade is the gui creater for the gnome desktop and you apparantly don't need to know any C programming like you do for gtk, as glade uses xml and libglade to load the guis dynamically as needed
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enlightenment is NOT great for customization. they have like NO entrance for example, and it isnt lightweight.
I dont intend on us merging projects. my distro is not going to be game oriented or use enlightenment. its a designer/high end consumer distro. i meant more like general support.
i dont have time to build a complete theme from scratch with glade. Im going to give an svg mockup to someone who can build it for me. they can base it off of something else.
akuminlinux is based off of ubuntu 8.10 with a different app set that allows for ipod and zune support and support for thousands of windows software titles (including WoW) and a revolutionary ui that deviates away from the Mac OS Aqua/Vista Aero/KDE Crystal glossy-ness.
what I am in need at this point is man power. I have a webmaster and 2 themers and myself, and we can get things done at this pace, but i would love to have more people on the team. I would love to know what kind of skills you have. :]
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I didn't mean to merge projects but if that we are both using a debian based system, then the basics, such as the base system, X11, etc, would be the same, So to build two systems from the base up even including the custom software that you want to include, is just as easy to build two at the same time rather than just build one and then another one.
I'm pretty sure that you have given some serious thought to the programs that you wish to include in your distro, and I'm sure that you have thought long and hard about how to go about including windows software into your distro.
So, if I offended you with what I said last time, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to suggest merging products, I merely meant to say, that as we are both basing our systems upon debian, then it is only wise to build the two of them simultaneously.
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haha you didnt offend me sorry if i was rude
(too much caffeine and too little sleep >_<
i would love to do that. I'm severly limited by the fact that AWN is a central part of our OS, but with a lack of free computers, i can only run our builds with a virtualizer, thus no compiz, so no awn. But I found lotsa apps for building, compatibility, media, you name it.
yes! consider us partners! where would you like to go from here?
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I was thinking of porting DirectX over to linux for you
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why not use wine? and what is the diff between wine and bordeax? they have the same logo?! i wonder if they are stems of the same project.
wine is a compatibility layer that somehow incorporates directx
but i dont think directx is open source, so i couldnt package the actual directx package. wine would install it when needed.
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from my understanding bordeax is a low cost add-on to the Free Software package known as Wine. Wine enables Linux users to run many Windows applications on non-windows systems, but until now, a low cost easy to configure version was not available.
or "Bordeaux for Linux is designed to aide in the transition and migration to non-Windows platforms by bringing Windows software to Linux."
mono is the opensource equivelent to microsofts .Net runtime, so yet agian this would be a valuable inclusion into your system
or "The Mono Project is an open development initiative sponsored by Novell to develop an open source, UNIX version of the Microsoft .NET development platform. Its objective is to enable UNIX developers to build and deploy cross-platform .NET Applications. The project implements various technologies developed by Microsoft that have now been submitted to the ECMA for standardization.
The ".NET Initiative" is a somewhat nebulous company-wide effort by Microsoft, one part of which is a cross-platform development framework. Mono is an implementation of the development framework, but not an implementation of anything else related to the .NET Initiative, such as Passport or software-as-a-service."
so that's what bordeax and mon o are
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hi there! did you make these icons? if so, what makes you think you aren't an artist?
either way, I'd be glad to help. I like the motifs you are using, my linux distro has oriental inspiration also.
Give me more details in a note or something!
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I didn't make these icons, I found the trash icons from a windows icons download site, the mimetypes I did make myself, but I found the pictures in different icon sets.
I tried to use a dragon around the tao icon as my firefox browsere icon, it was my first real attempt at making an icon and it failed miserably, as I coud't get the dragon to wrap around the Tao.
I really liked your Distinkt os icons, I thought that they where really unique, and looked really cool. I would love to be able to do something like that but all I can do is make mosaic type icons, using different layers of pictures and scraps that I have found and that I like the look of
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thats a unique skill. i'd love to see something!
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all right, you need wine and mono for the windows emulation and the .net runtime, on top of that you will need an abstraction layer to hide the linux/X API, probably something like Reactos layered above wine and mono, besides that you will need to port DirectX over to linux in order to get it working on a Debian system, and in order for windows programs to recognise the API, so should I begin by porting over the DirectX SDK or have you already gotten that far
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HEHE i didnt quite catch all that. Sorry man, not rlly a programmer
wine is a standalone app, ive used darwine which is the mac version, and theres very little config.
directX doesnt need porting. thats the beauty of wine! wine is not an emulator, its more like spliced code from my understanding, but it runs directX as if it was a windows system.
Wine actually stands for:
Wine
Is
Not an
Emulator
I think what you might be describing is a way to recreate a similar effect as wine, but if it aint broke, dont fix it.
No porting to do :]
One thing that needs to be done is to re-brand Ubuntu, which entails finding the uses of the brand "Ubuntu" in the code and subsequently changing it, as well as finding and replacing the Ubuntu help files and what not.
tell me more about bordeaux, mono, etc.
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aren't you just talking about the ubuntu add-ons, like theme packs, the boot screen, installer, desktop integration, etc, I think if you just make a list of those things from within synaptic, then you could get away with just removing them but at the same time you would need to install the alternatives by yourself, why don't you join the the ubuntu launchpad and ask there, they'll be able to tell you a lot more detailed info about ubuntu as most of theses people are ubuntu gurus, and community developers, so i'm sure that you'll be able to find someone who can give you a more technical description of what you want and need to do.
Also i'm sure that there will be people who will help you be able to build the whole system just the way that you want it
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