SamuraiBrosnya In reply to JKamrath [2010-11-22 00:56:15 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, I know. I thought the exact same thing.

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SamuraiBrosnya In reply to Squirrelboy45 [2009-10-28 21:40:59 +0000 UTC]

There is no logical debate, beign that race does not exist. I am willing to debate it. There are genetic differences in people, but can you prove that race has a defined boundary? It can't be skin color, because of albinism, there are many "white people" with tans, and groups like "asians" and "hispanics" are nearly indistinguishable. It's nto continental, because all humans originate from Africa, and what if you are several generations American? You can't give an actual label in time for when race is continentall classified. It's also not genetic, because everyone's genes are different, yet nearly 100% of it is all the same. There is nothing in the genetic code defining race, so it does not exist. So basically, you dislike something which you cannot prove exists. What makes you think that there aren't "white", "asian" or "hispanic" criminals as well? If there are black people suffering and living harder lives, its obviously the aftermath of slavery. Even after slavery, black codes, and other discriminatory laws were put in place. Its the same for Native Americans. Many newer generation Native Americans are using drugs and resorting to crime. Why is this? Our country did lead a genocide against them, and we did force them onto reservations. Also, most of what you say is based off of media. I doubt you know any "black" people personally. I do. They are no different than "white" or "asian" people. They don't resort to crime and are respectable people.

Also, you claim to not tolerate bullying. Well, I'm just standing against discrimination. Also, you claim to have your own opinion, so why can't I think you should go suck cock? You also claim not to care if others don't like you, so why reply? Just like how you don't tolerate bullying, I don't tolerate racism. You also claim its your right to speak out. Well, its my right to speak against you.

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Squirrelboy45 In reply to SamuraiBrosnya [2009-10-28 22:56:05 +0000 UTC]

Hm... I guess you're right. You can say anything you want to me. Although I don't know why you'd be mean to me because of political views or beliefs. I mean, I don't bother anyone because of their beliefs... if they're atheist, let them be atheist, if they're republican, let them be republican... etc. I even tolerate nazis, gay people and pedophiles. (the latter of which, only if they are just pedos and not sexual predators. There's a difference).

Your motivation was probably that my viewpoint didn't agree with yours and you thought I was an asshole and you let me know. So you're right, you have an opinion. Go ahead and tell me to suck a cock. However, that's not going to make me like you exactly.

Apart from that, I certainly thing that race exists. No, we did not all originate in Africa. We did not exactly evolve from african monkeys and then spread across the world. I believe God created us and then gave us the ability to evolve. Likewise, I do think that there is a such thing as race. It's obvious genetic differences. Furthermore, sometimes people can be so different that I wouldn't even doubt that they are different species.

I don't dislike black people because they're black. I dislike them because what most of the time tends to come with that. White people are so modest for instance. They take the blame for slavery, and the killing of the native americans (which by the way they didn't all get wiped out by them... a lot of it had to do with european diseases brought to america that they settlers were immune to, but the americans were not). And also, the black people in africa sold their own people into slavery to the white man. The white man just did what was most economic.

But Black people seem to have no modesty. They don't aknowledge their faults, they blame it on other people. Slavery, slavery. Racism, racism. Furthermore, they think it's actaully ok to get benefits because they are black... affirmative action. Is that not racist in itself? So according to them, it's okay to be racist as long as it benefits them. Bullshit. And the word nigger... it makes them absolutely go bonkers. It reminds me of a raving chimpanzee, a wild animal. All because of a single word. Do they not know that people use the word more because they acknowledge that it insults them so much? How can they take offense to a simple word that comes out of peoples mouths?

You see, I'm not a TRUE racist, in that every person with dark skin on the street I immediately hate them. No. I'm racist by today's standards, which are politically correct, but not correct in itself. I'm ashamed of how brainwashed america has become. They preach equal treatment to blacks and all that stuff, but when it comes to a social stigma like racism, they hate nazis and kkk members because of their political views. When will people learn that hate does not heal hate.

I don't hate black people, I just really dislike them sometimes. I am not a true racist, but I would probably be considered racist by today's standards. I don't care if they call me that though, I stick by what I believe.

ANd if they're respectable black people, they I can respect them. And yes I do know some black people who are actaully really awesome. And they understand my feelings toward their race in general.

Anyway, why do you get so offended that I dislike black people? Are you black yourself? Or do you just follow the social stigma like a brainwashed american?

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SamuraiBrosnya In reply to Squirrelboy45 [2009-10-29 20:10:06 +0000 UTC]

Also, race isn't obvious genetic differences if you cannot define it. Many races have different traits, and if you can genetically find someone's race, its not at the same level on everyone's genome, nor does it stick out more than any other trait.

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SamuraiBrosnya In reply to Squirrelboy45 [2009-10-29 20:08:03 +0000 UTC]

Also, why do you beleive in God? This beleif in christianity won't really clear up anything, being that christianity was a tool of racism.

I am not brainwashed. I have many friends who are black. Brainwashed are born agains like you who refuse to belevie in evolution. I am "white" so to say, but being that I do not beleive in race, and I strive to put little steps in towards a unified society, I treat "black" people jsut like "white people". They're just people. "Black" people don't deny that other africans sold them. At the same time, its the slaves themselves who made the strive for freedom in America, since they didn't really strive for freedom. "Black" friends of mine don't deny that there have been bad "black" people in history, but that goes for any race.


I think that we may be comign accross each other the wrong way. I dislike tolerance groups. I only tolerate those who I think deserve tolerance. I don't point at every muslim and claim them to be a terrorist, being that its sucha small percentage out of the world's second largest religion, and christianity has killed thousands of more people, and because it is the majority religion, it is immediatly justified. I do dislike how some gays will support their own stereotype, by wearing bright colors and havign high pitched voices. I feel the rainbow for gay pride itself is completely supporting the gay stereotype. This certainly goes for "black" people as well, in how I dislike when a "black" person will act ghetto, thus, deepening the stereotype, and brining us further from one unified race. The difference from me and you is that I don't judge an entire race on something as miniscule as this. Do you think people in Africa act the same way?

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SamuraiBrosnya In reply to Squirrelboy45 [2009-10-28 23:52:52 +0000 UTC]

I was mean because I was offended (I have many ethnic friends), and thoughts can be dangerous. Actions are triggered by words, which are triggered by thoughts.

“Watch your thoughts, for they become words.
Watch your words, for they become actions.
Watch your actions, for they become habits.
Watch your habits, for they become character.
Watch your character, for it becomes your destiny.”
-Gandhi
I doubt you grew up knowing people of different "races". For a society to exist that is absent of the concept of race an all people are equal, there must be absence of this beleif. Don't generalize people. Its wrong saying most of this group is this and that. Also, don't define boundaries between groups. I'm against things like black history month and native american reservations because it divides us, and puts us on separate playing fields. For an example, Mathew Henson is in a group of explorers who amde the first successful expedition to the north pole, but because of black history month and tolerance groups, he's the first "black" explorer, putting him on a different playing field. This makes him separate from the rest of the group. Separate can be better or worse, but never equal. I am against reverse discrimination only because it leads to more racism, but racism on its own is bad. Racialism is bad as well, though most people don't think so. This may help you. Racialism is the beleif that there are separate races. Well, if race cannot be proven, then you're not really the product of interbreeding. I don't know if that helps or not.

I am sorry for telling you to suck dick, but don't generalize. Society can't progress to equality if there's discrimination.

Just out of curiosity, what is the difference between pedophiles and sex offenders?

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Squirrelboy45 In reply to SamuraiBrosnya [2009-10-29 20:31:58 +0000 UTC]

Like I said before, I am not, by true definition, racist. I am simply politically incorrect for most people in our society to call me so. I guess you're right, in that not all black people are like that. But it does make me feel insecure being around them. I do have some black friends, and they're really cool, but I extremely dislike black people who are trying, like you said, to kind've isolate themselves and elevate them to a different level, where they will be further separated.

I do believe that there are races though. There is an obvious difference in people depending on where their genetic origins lie.

You are right, and honestly I'm a lot less racist than I was when I made that comment. I still don't like them in general, but it doesn't mean I hate them all immediately.

Ok... the difference between pedophiles and sex offenders... just because someone is a pedophile does not make them a sex offender. Pedophilia is like a fetish or a sexuality. It's like being gay. It's something that biologically can't be helped: they need the strength of will, and the grace of God to help them get over it. Basically, a pedophile is anyone turned on by children. A sex offender is anyone who actually molests a child. All child sexual predators are pedophiles, but not all pedophiles are sexual predators. And as long as they're strong enough to control their urges, I can accept pedophiles as normal people as well... even if they are not normal.

Why do I believe in God? I know this will sound very annoying to you... but I believe in the truth. I know that God exists and that we are all from Him. The reason being I have felt it personally and have gotten closer to God recently. I was raised a Christian, but only recently have I truly begun to feel it. From a scientific point of view, it's impossible to have originated from nowhere... they proved that the theory of spontaneous generation was false. And the law of conservation of mass states that matter cannot be created or destroyed. So obviously where all matter comes from is a divine entity of some sort, incomprehendable by human beings, that created the law of conservation of mass first, then put matter into his universe with his 3 dimensions. Everything is way too perfect to have sprung randomly out of nowhere. Even in the random things in our daily lives, there is always symmetry and order, rather than Chaos. And our bodies are too perfect to have just turned into living organisms from non living matter, and then start mutating into these bizarre and complex creatures. The proof that there is intelligent design lies in our DNA, which is literally a blueprint for all organisms. A blueprint: as in something designed and created it. When a person gets a cut, blood platelets come to form a scab immediately. Eyes allow us to see, ears allow us to detect vibrations in the form of sound. A complicated network of nerves allows the brain to send signals all over the body. Sexual reproduction is a unique and interesting process. Everything is too perfect to have sprung from little germs in the beginning. Although yes, I do acknowledge the existence of evolution. It is in my theory that God designed our bodies in such a perfect way that they were designed to improve themselves along the way.

Another reason for my Christianity is... it is so full of love. Even if God and everything end up not really existing... I'd rather have a belief that I'm going somewhere, and motivation to do good things, and feel the love of Christ. In a person's darkest hour, the love of Christ can really penetrate deep into you. You wouldn't understand this because you "I'm presuming" are an atheist. The problem with people who are scientifically minded is that they consistently forget about the spiritual realm. They think of existence as matter, in this universe with laws, but there are plains of existence that we do not understand fully because we're human and imperfect. Not everything can be explained in the 3 dimensions that we know. There are also metaphysical things that we do not understand. So people who consistently ask "I need proof, physically, of God's existence. I want him to come down here and perform a miracle." Those people are kind've blind, because they don't acknowledge that God is a spiritual being, not physical. You feel it in yourself, in your heart. But these people are unknown to His existence because they choose to alienate themselves from Him because he is not physical.

Anyway, don't mistake me for a super radical Christian who screams at people and says "YOU'RE GOING TO HELL BECAUSE YOU'RE GAY! OR AN ATHEIST!!" etc. I'm not. I hate those people.

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SamuraiBrosnya In reply to Squirrelboy45 [2009-11-03 03:46:25 +0000 UTC]

I'm familiar with the amazing racist. There is kind of a difference in scenarios. First off, he dresses as a stereotypical Asian, and in the other one, he dresses as a KKK. if you are a klansmen, you are bassically preaching the death of African Americans, and if they were not in on the joke, they may have reacted hastily. Also, being that he's a comedian, and he went around doing this everywhere, he cut the best footage for entertainment value. If he had dressed up as blackface, I don't think their reactions would have been as severe, though they'd still be offended.

I think living in a mostly white neighborhood would ahve an effect on it. I do live in a msotly white town, but it is small and lacks people in general. The school I go to is a magnet school, bringing in kids from around different towns, so I am emersed by different groups of people. If you are not familiar personally with one group, you'd only know about them through the media, which leads to stereotypes.

I kind of see what you're saying about Christianity, but I see flaws with how people say God created existance. I define existance as the ability to exist. Saying someone created the ability to exist sounds kind of like a chicken or the egg scenario, being that without the ability to exist preceding its own origin, then it doesn't have a creator. I'm not trying to disprove your religion, I'm just trying to show that the universe has, and always will have, whether its science or religion, paradoxical flaws.

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SamuraiBrosnya In reply to Squirrelboy45 [2009-10-29 21:04:30 +0000 UTC]

Ok, I'm sorry for criticizing you before. I think we just have a huge difference in wording. Even if you do dislike some "black" people, it jsut seems really weird to me. I mean like, why indicate it? I just don't see why it should be a defining feature on your opinion, mapping how you dislike people. Lets put it like this. Say you dislike people who annoy you. Thats understandable. Lets say everyone who annoys you has a left hand. Jumping out and saying, "I dislike left handed people", is kind of the same.

I respect your faith. I don't think its a bad thing. I'm pretty much undecided on my faith, because the universe seems pretty paradoxical to me. I'm a Buddhist in terms of my philosophical points of view. Its ok to be christian, but I just think people should accept science for what it is. There is a difference between beleiving in God, and beleign what man speaks of God. I just see why you don't beleive people are from Africa, and that Evolution didn't happen as we describe. You can say God lead us into life, using simple chagnes in evolution. The reason I am not completely sure on any religious beleifs is that if there is a God who created us, why? And if there is a God, why does he exist?

I understand the difference between pedophiles and sex offenders now. Thanks for clearing that up

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Squirrelboy45 In reply to SamuraiBrosnya [2009-10-30 20:41:14 +0000 UTC]

I dunno why I'm very obviously politically incorrect about black people... I guess it's because I hate political correctness, and I prefer truth. But you're right, I should stop saying I hate black people and start saying I hate assholes, many of which happen to be black.

Another thing that made me leave that comment is I find the American social stigma against racism almost to be "racist" in itself... not exactly racist because KKK and Nazi aren't races (well I guess Nazi is sort've... how they say they're a "master" race or something... I dunno.)

But the point is people are so close minded and jump on the bandwagon a lot. I find people are as prejudiced against these prejudiced groups as these prejudiced groups are to those people. Like a nazi walking down the street might get punched. How hypocritical is that? And a Klansman would immediately get lynched by niggers.

I also use the word "nigger" as an asshole black person. So not all black people are niggers. Just the assholes. Therefore I see nothing wrong with using that word. And I think most black people overreact when that word is used, and therefore it gives people more motivation to use it to insult them.

As for your religious beliefs and questions, God created us because he needed someone else there to love. Why does God exist? There is no real definition, because God is the alpha and omega. He is, always has been, and always will be. He never was created per se... He just has always been. The universe and all of existence revolves around him because He is the source. Even if science tries to explain things, it kinda fails because further questions are unanswered. They say the universe was created at the big bang. Where did the big bang come from? Or all that matter? matter cannot be created or destroyed according to scientific laws, which means the creation of the universe precedes the creation of those laws. God created laws to govern the dimensions. And this is only our way of percieving... but humans aren't perfect, and don't have perfect knowledge, so we can't know all. We never will.

Anyway, that's my view on it.

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SamuraiBrosnya In reply to Squirrelboy45 [2009-10-30 22:38:03 +0000 UTC]

Well, this could be because nazis and klansmen challenge peace in society. All races can live as equals, but racism challenges that. There are black supremesists, who I don't look highly upon. All rules that aply for "black" people should aply to "white" people too, and all other races as well. If so, our society will never reach social equality. I'm against colleges bringing in ethnic kids for the sake of bringing in ethnic kids, because they should bring in kids who are willing to learn at that college. I acctually have an interesting story. My teacher's friend was a "white" immigrant from south africa. He moved to the united states, applied for colleges, and on his papers, he filled out "African American" as race, because he was from Africa, and he was a citizen of America. When a college accepted him and found out he was "white", they threatened to kick him out, saying that he rigged the system. His family sued the school, and he was able to go, but this shows the flaw with race. It may be visible, but its boundaries can't be given a single definition.

I also don't mind calling a "black" person who is an asshole being called a nigger. If you are trying to offend them because they did so to you, by any means necesary, do it. There is this gay kid who was a total douchebag to me who I called a faggot. I just don't think its right to go running out and calling gays faggots for not doing anything.

About your religious views, don't feel that I'm questioning you. I just want to point out that all, science and religion, are paradoxical. The big bang can't be given a source and neither can God. Neither can be given a purpose, and religion is supposed to answer our purpose, but we don't know God's purpose, right? So it leads into an endless cycle. We will never know why existence is, because once science or religion makes an answer, it gives us another question. That's why I think we should accept the now and create our own meaning from life.

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Squirrelboy45 In reply to SamuraiBrosnya [2009-11-02 17:13:06 +0000 UTC]

That whole story about your teacher's friend is outrageous. It's a perfect example of reverse racism... It shows that these idiots at the college will accept a black person over a white person of the same intellect because of the colour of their skin. Yes, it's good for black people, but it's treating them differently because of skin colour, and that is racism. Good racism, but still racism. It's also bad racism towards white people.

And the thing I don't like about black people is a lot of them would be for that just because it suits their needs. I know not all black people are like that, but a lot are, and they have no humility at all. Just because they were slaves in the past does not mean we owe them special treatment.

So to be honest, I guess I am not really racist, but extremely against what most black people believe nowadays. (well, most african AMERICANS) because black people from Africa seem to be pretty cool (If they're not cutting you with machetes or conducting genocides of course)

Hm... perhaps you'll notice my reasoning for my dislike of african american people if you go to youtube and watch "The Amazing Racist." If you do, there's an episode on black people (where the guy dresses as a klansman and jokingly brings a giant wooden cross into a store owned by a black person, and asks for a lighter, and if he has a front lawn he could borrow).

There's also an Asian one where he makes fun of Asian people. There are big differences between the two, notably, the black people always seem to be starting fights with him and actually trying to physically hurt him, while the asian people just kick him out and tell him never to come back again.

I know not all black people are like that, but that is one of the reasons I dislike them. And maybe you're right, I live in a mostly white neighborhood, so maybe I just don't know enough good black people. Although I do know some.

So you're saying that everything has an origin, even the origin itself, which in turn will create an endless circle of things. Although according to Christianity, God has just always been. He had no origin, because he wasn't created. There was never anything before Him, it was just always Him. It's metaphorically referred to as the Alpha and Omega, which means the beginning and the end, which basically states that God had no origin: he has always existed. And that God will have no end, he always will exist no matter what. The entity of God is time-transcending, as much as he is transcending of the physical world. We only live in this one universe perceived only by our 5 senses as what we believe is "the truth." But there is obviously more out there than we could ever understand, and receiving all that knowledge would overload the primitive human brain and drive someone insane.

God has an almost science fictional mythology to him, and it really interests me. So according to Christianity at least, the meaning of life was simply to be with God. He wanted to create us to have someone to love. Though his children often turn against him, which actually hurts His heart a lot, God will continue to love them all even if there is only 1 good person in the world. Because 1 good heart is worth more than a billion evil ones.

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SamuraiBrosnya In reply to One-to-Be [2009-09-21 00:54:40 +0000 UTC]

yeah, I did. Welcome to Deviantart.

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