Kamikashi In reply to BenjaminEN [2021-09-06 15:17:11 +0000 UTC]

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Kamikashi In reply to MildOcelot2 [2020-06-14 02:04:52 +0000 UTC]

P*ss off, spammer.

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Kamikashi In reply to RoseSparrow [2016-06-14 02:52:18 +0000 UTC]

I totally know the feeling. The man was awesome. I got into contact with his work 13 years ago (wow, it's really been that long?) in the last years of grammar school, studying Latin. Suffice to say, I thoroughly enjoyed reading "In Verrem".
(Alternate ending would be nice hihi - according to the annals, Octavian protested against Mark Anthony ordering his death, but could not sway him.)

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RoseSparrow In reply to Kamikashi [2016-06-14 21:13:33 +0000 UTC]

I loved 'In Verrem'! I read the English translation though lol I can't read Latin. Once I started I just couldn't stop! It just grips you doesn't it?
I know but Mark Anthony just wouldn't let it go . When I read how Cicero died I was in tears. I mean visibly distraught. Luckily I read it at home before the rest of the class learnt about it, so only my mum saw me like that. When our teacher finally did talk to us about how he died there were a few other tears in the room too .

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Kamikashi In reply to RoseSparrow [2016-06-15 00:47:15 +0000 UTC]

To think he stumbled upon the case during his tax collector (quaestor) tour... and managed to set the world record for compensations of damages (1.5 million sesterces)... Shame you can't, there's something special about his Latin.
Makes you wonder what kind of monstrous and fragile ego Anthony had that he had an old senator killed, who, by all means had lost most of his pull (though he retained the esteem of the people). All just because of a speech.
One thing that infuriates me also is the speech Mark Anthony held during Caesar's funeral, where he had the GALL of calling him the very same title Cicero was given for stopping Catilina - PATER PATRIAE.
I wasn't crying, but I certainly felt like it (it's in the appendix of my In Verrem). I still feel like it when I think about it.
As for alternate ends, I have a few ideas...

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RoseSparrow In reply to Kamikashi [2016-06-15 23:53:08 +0000 UTC]

To think that they were just looking for someone to lose the case, and he decided to be stubborn, ambitious, heroic and just amazing. He displayed his true genius.
I forgot about how much compensation he got! Honestly I've spent so much time in a dumb boring job, that I've forgotten most of the cool stuff I used to know!
I was really angry about stealing the 'Father of the Country' title - it became tradition after that for all emperors to have the title didn't it? But the first and true 'Father of the Country' was Cicero.

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Kamikashi In reply to RoseSparrow [2016-06-18 13:15:41 +0000 UTC]

Augustus, the five adoptive Emperors, those I get as Patres Patriae, but never Mr. I am way too obvious a tyrant Caesar. And God and all that is holy forbid Antonius.
Well, Verres never had to pay, but… since he ran off, a still rather young Cicero - who just was becoming aedilis - got his senatorial seat for practically nothing. Also, it made him THE jurist of Rome, and he wasn't even 40 yet.

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Kamikashi In reply to Wings-chan [2014-11-12 18:37:32 +0000 UTC]

Immer gern!

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Kamikashi In reply to Tendranor [2012-11-19 22:56:30 +0000 UTC]

You're welcome! You look fantastically similar to DT...

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